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    You're all welcome!

    I have tested on what John Mccain said about dropping the Great Strides in Step 10. This lowers the CP requirement by 32 and it's still reaching 100% for me every synth (although, it should be noted, it did not with Alchemy's Spirits of Salt - 99%, how infuriating!) For anyone subsequently reading this and considering how to burn through the Artisan Tools you have two choices:

    - Either use a much lower quality food for +9 CP and remove this step, or:
    - If you don't have Alchemy to 50 drop the opening Comfort Zone from the rotation, keep the Great Strides in Step 10 (which will now be Step 9) and this removes the need to have Alchemy even at level 1 for this rotation. I can not in good conscience tell people not to level Alchemy though, as Comfort Zone is so amazing! The choice is yours!
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    ** This rotation (with Normal condition on every touch) has roughly 400 more quality gained than required, so the control stat stated is higher than required. This was my stat with fully melded gear, which you'll need for 3 star synths anyway. Perhaps other people who might experiment with lower control could share their findings?
    Pleased to.

    Goldsmith. Not fully melded. Nothing on the offhand at all no overmelds on the body, all else optimal.

    Craft 354 Control 346, 357 CPs using HQ frumenty. No step 10 path.

    Didn't work as intended.

    But I'm miner 50 and can casually HQ the nuggets. so no problem. I know the first thing that goes in the offhand.
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    In the name of science I have bought some HQ Chilled Potato Soup Craft +12% (max 47) and CP + 5% (max 17)

    I am at Craft 354, Control 346, 345 CPs. I know I should be pushing Control but want to see if pushing craft instead could help. should get me to Craft 396 and 362 CPs. But not tonight.

    CC IV materia are currently at 160K on my server ....

    Edit: CC IV materia came down to 120K. Base stats: Craft 354, Control 350, CPs 345. With the soup: Craft 396, Control 350, CPs 362.

    At these specs that rotation works only if I hit a crit on a touch or two. I have MUCH better results riding the RNG and Hasty touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    At these specs that rotation works only if I hit a crit on a touch or two. I have MUCH better results riding the RNG and Hasty touch.
    Unless you are getting the tools for completion's sake only, you'll need to meld your crafters to make three star synths. With the three star levels required you could use this rotation and HQ every attempt. Why not just meld in preparation for three star and make getting the tools easier?
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    Is there any way this rotation/method could be altered to not include Ingenuity II? Ingenuity II and Piece by Piece (not mentioned in this thread) are the only two cross-class actions I do not have yet. I have been hard grinding trying to get Ingenuity II, but it is becoming very boring , very expensive, and very slow. I may have to just hold off and wait for the leve allowances to build back up
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    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvianEverdeen View Post
    Is there any way this rotation/method could be altered to not include Ingenuity II? Ingenuity II and Piece by Piece (not mentioned in this thread) are the only two cross-class actions I do not have yet. I have been hard grinding trying to get Ingenuity II, but it is becoming very boring , very expensive, and very slow. I may have to just hold off and wait for the leve allowances to build back up
    I altered the original roation/method myself and got my Artisan's Spectacles finally! Some failed attempts obviously, as altering the original rotation/method did not produce 100% as intendedby your original, but I got it done with: 361craft, 342control, and 382CP (with HQ Bouillabaisse). Oh and this was a messed up melded ALC lol. None of my pieces (except for jewelry and belt) were properly or fully melded. ALC was my first 50 craft way back in the day and I melded it before I knew what I was doing, but I already had the master book on ALC, so I was kind of left with no choice!
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    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    I couldn't think of a way. The only way to reclaim an extra step would be to drop a touch, which drastically lowers the finished % of quality thanks to Inner Quiet being weaker. I think my suggestion would be to get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    I couldn't think of a way. The only way to reclaim an extra step would be to drop a touch, which drastically lowers the finished % of quality thanks to Inner Quiet being weaker. I think my suggestion would be to get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
    I replaced some of the basic touches with hasty touches, saving a lot of CP. At the end when I had the item at 100% or close to it, I still had enough CP for another Manipulation and a regular Ingenuity which let me finish the craft!

    There is no doubt I will have all my crafters to 50, but I just wanted those artisan's spectacles in a rush for some reason so I had to think outside the box until the leve allowances start building back up. I should actually have enough today to take my BSM to 50, giving me the last piece I need for your one and two-star rotations!
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    You know what's so overpowered in this game, that they just HAD to leave out?
    -Buffing during cutscenes.
    -Pets receiving the Protect buff.
    -A blacklist with more than a 200 player capacity.
    -Filtering the flying text for your own numbers.
    -A better way to organize and sort through your macros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    get Ingenuity II anyway, even if it is a grind, as it's essential to three star crafting.
    It's really not essential for 3 star crafts ^^

    I don't use it at all for my method.

    It's more use than the LTW lvl50 skill... but not one I'd suggest rushing.

    ARM lvl50 on the other hand, I would make my priority if I were Evian.

    Piece by Piece I personally would say is Essential for 3 star crafting with a very high HQ rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    It's really not essential for 3 star crafts ^^

    I don't use it at all for my method.

    It's more use than the LTW lvl50 skill... but not one I'd suggest rushing.
    How many steps do you finish your synths in, including Piece by Piece?
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