DPS meters and why they're necessary

[AerysDarkstrike]

- How the hell could you possible know that? Are you omnipotent? Can you read the thoughts of 1,000,000+ people simultaneously? That. Is. Amazing.
- The same mechanics are in play for Tanks and Healers currently. Do you think that a group of 7 experienced and competent players that are online specifically to get a clear should let a WHM stay in their group that can't heal enough to keep up the tanks under normal circumstances? Then why would they allow a DPS that can't do enough damage to kill the boss in time for the DPS checks to stay in? Its really not fair.

The most you get out of a DF group usually is "hi" at the start, and sometimes not even that, maybe a "GG" at the end. There's not much if any helping going on. Maybe a quick "Who wants to main tank" conversation. Those are not the people who will calmly and politely explain how to get better.

[LetBloodline]

The most you get out of a DF group usually is "hi" at the start, and sometimes not even that, maybe a "GG" at the end. There's not much if any helping going on. Maybe a quick "Who wants to main tank" conversation. Those are not the people who will calmly and politely explain how to get better.

I really disagree on that.
I'm one of those that don't start a conversation in DF. I don't care, i don't know if others whould like it and i'm not a talkative person even in real life. So in DF i just noramlly shut up. But I answer if others start a conversation and if i see someone in need of explenation i give it out (i hope) nicely

Like yesterday. I was DR low level as tank 41. I got tam tara (again...). We started and healer goes on and pull more mobs. I get aggro and me and healer get to hold on nicely so we started doing the dungeon with multiple pulls. I was with a THM and a LNC. I don't know LNC as class but i saw the THM using fire with 6+ mobs. I asked "Fire 2 plz" and the answer was "No.". It got me off balance, we made it to first boss, i saw that the enimity built from other 2 where almost null. I was getting maim up then spam OP unless out of TP then i stayed put until full TP again (defensive cooldowns when avaible obviusly) and when i was full TP their aggro was not even 1/4. After first boss i said that Fire 2 on 6 mobs was better then fire. The answer was "I know". It was getting me mad and i asked why he used fire then. He answered that he didn't want to "waste" his rested bonus on that dungeon and i had to deal with himplay that way or kick him. I could comply with his request, his attitude was pushing me to do so but it was clear he didn't know how the rested bonus worked so i keeped calm and explained. After that he started use fire 2 sometimes. Their aggro still sucked and LNC was able to be close out from final boss. It was a painful run but i didn't kick anyone even if they sucked and THM was rude even if i'm not a talkative type and i usually don't chat asaid for hi or gg

So don't make generic, stupid and wrong assumptions

[Ehayte]

The most you get out of a DF group usually is "hi" at the start, and sometimes not even that, maybe a "GG" at the end. There's not much if any helping going on. Maybe a quick "Who wants to main tank" conversation. Those are not the people who will calmly and politely explain how to get better.

No, they are likely to see the bad numbers - and then type:

/fc lol, this DRG is doing 90 dps in Bray... horrible
FC_Mate_01 >>Are you guys actually getting through it?
/fc yeah - just a little slow.
FC_Mate_01 >>Are you going to ask him if he needs help?
/fc Well, if I do that, he will likely get pissed off at me, so no. It's all good though.