More Raid content please!

[Roth_Trailfinder]

8 is 2 less people then WoW popular 10 raiding. 8m is also made up of two 4 man parties combined into 1, just as 10m is made of 2 two 5 man parties in WoW. Large gigantic 40m "raids" are not only incredibly dull, reduced to tank spank or zerg fests, but are a nightmare to organize. Honestly there is nothing wrong with the number of players in the raid, it's the raid design that could use tweaking.

To correct you .. 8 man is a "full PARTY" made up of two 4 man "light PARTY" combined into one.

The CT raid is multiple 8 man "full PARTY" running around in the same instance.

You are correct - there is nothing wrong with the number of people in the raid (24). However, since they are only one party, you can't call Coil a raid and they need to both stop calling it a raid, and introduce actual end-game raids.

If you are going to cite another game, so shall I. In Everquest, you have 6 man groups. Group content is designed around having up to 6 people there. The Raid system, introduced for Planes of Power over a decade ago, supports twelve such groups - 72 people in all. A couple of expansions later, they reduced the number of people instances could hold by 3 groups, down to 54, but the raid system still supports 72.

The raids in EQ are also a lot more complicated than mere zergs or tank'n'spank. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=5081 for example, has more than just tank'n'spank involved. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=3351 was fun pandemonium. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=7416 has a lot more than tank and spank - plenty of kiting and other crowd control in addition to the tank'n'spank.

Raids can be a lot more than what we have here in FF14 atm, a lot more than WoW's zerg and tank'n'spank raids. We all just need to recognize that 8 man Full Party content is NOT raid content, and SE need to stop calling some Full Party content "raid" and other Full Party content "group".