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    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Which I never mention that I suggested that the drop rate be RNG, my suggestion was to completely remove RNG from coil drops as I suggested that the token drop be 100% like UAT/oil/sands.

    I think the UAT/oil/sands thing might be an attempt by SE to see if such system I spoke of (100% drop rate token system) will work between players themselves.
    Who knows, maybe SE might implement a full 100% drop token system someday?
    That's exactly the point I'm making, they said they won't add in a 100% token drop system.

    It'd either be a random token drop-rate, or a Need/Greed System.

    The oil/sands were so people had an alternative way of obtaining gear other than relying on BCoB High Allagan drops, which was highly requested.

    Unless they've had a change of heart since they last mention it a year or so ago, I'd dare-say they aren't likely to have changed their opinion on it much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Actually. People wanted an alt way of obtaining gear other than coil - yes. But Oil and Sands are gated behind coil and that was counter productive. Pre 2.2 the answer was myth gears which are of the same ilvl, but Soldiery wasn't. Sands and Oil are only offered outside coil in 2.3 onwards via Hunts and CT2.

    But well, if they insist on adding RNG, that's fine since that's what we have been doing for close to a year anyways. Doesn't really affect me since I clear coil so I have access to them, but for those who can't, that's another story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Doesn't really affect me since I clear coil so I have access to them, but for those who can't, that's another story.
    The idea really was that, seeing as BCoB is the only end-game content, the only way to obtain them (originally) was via BCoB.

    This came up for discussion during 2.0 and 2.1 "Can we obtain Allagan ilevel equivilant gear outside coil please". And almost everyone in those threads pointed out the obvious "That gear is designed to be used to BCoB, so it makes sense to obtain it from BCoB".


    There are A LOT of people expecting to get 'raid-equivalent' gear without ever touching a raid, which is pointless because that's what the gear is mostly intended to be used for.



    But that's slightly veering off topic.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 06-27-2014 at 12:48 AM.