Why is Coil so Cruel?

[Vahlnir]

Your main class, Conjurer. Has High Allagan earrings of healing.

Erm, ok then...

Yeah...lol

[Shioban]

Your main class, Conjurer. Has High Allagan earrings of healing.

Erm, ok then...

Re-read what I wrote, don't skim over things.

I said very clearly; "I haven't got a single drop for my main"

I main Caster, the healing earrings were free-lot, as both our healers have them, and I can backup heal when necessary.


So far I've received one piece of gear I will actually use (I got a monk head free-lot which probably won't be used, regret rolling on that actually).


My point remains, you could go maybe four months without seeing a single drop for your main job in coil, it's just the luck of the draw (thankfully the oil/sands system helps a bit).

[Lothar808]

If you haven't gotten anything from coil and your group can down T7/T8 you should really workout how everyone rolls on the tombstone and oil/sand... With a dedicated drop rate, you guys should be fair and take turns rolling on those items. Our static did it this way: People who get the tombstone are people without T5 weapon or animus > people without animus > people with animus. Once you clear T8 it will be the same if people already have novus. As for the oil/sand... if you get it once, you have to wait until everyone else gets one before you can roll again. This will probably be the same setup until we can clear t9. Not saying this is perfect but it works. Oh and if a person gets an actual item drop from T7/T8... they cant roll on the oil/sand for that run either.

[Sapphic]

If you haven't gotten anything from coil and your group can down T7/T8 you should really workout how everyone rolls on the tombstone and oil/sand... With a dedicated drop rate, you guys should be fair and take turns rolling on those items. Our static did it this way: People who get the tombstone are people without T5 weapon or animus > people without animus > people with animus. Once you clear T8 it will be the same if people already have novus. As for the oil/sand... if you get it once, you have to wait until everyone else gets one before you can roll again. This will probably be the same setup until we can clear t9. Not saying this is perfect but it works. Oh and if a person gets an actual item drop from T7/T8... they cant roll on the oil/sand for that run either.

That's pretty much how we do things also, so lewt gets spread around the raid more.

Just that this week we had 100% caster DPS drops >.<

[Urielparadox]

AFter Coil1 I have very little incentive to do coil 2. I went 4 months and only got caster ring, on my first day and clear. This really killed all of mine(as well as several people I knows) want to do the new coil at all. It would be cool to see a system where if you get a clear, and you don't get an item, then when you exit the turn you get a token for that turn(put an npc at exit/have the exit confirm. IE you did Turn 6 on whm cleared but didn't get an item then you get a WHMScoB#1 token. after you get 5 you can trade it in for 1 piece of high allagan gear. I mean thats over 1 full month without gear on 1 turn to get a piece thats more then fair. it also allows for when people screw up and exit before gear drops to not be completely hurt.

[Yukiko]

Well you know: if every 8 of your group already have that one equip, that always seems to drop and you get it a 9th time... well... thats the time players go enrage mode and i can understand it... thats why we try to discuss that part with SE since 1.x... Before 2.0 was released it seemed SE understands, but... ... ... they done same shit again and so we continue to negotiate with them once again...

[Syhrwyb]

Indeed, mostly just me venting, and I actually feel a little better now. I shall continue my coil adventures as usual.

[PArcher]

For the record, I had horrible luck in Coil1 with drops. Absolutely horrible (which is why I bought the entire Myth armor set despite running Coil as much as I possibly could...). Only really got gear I would use near the end of 2.1 or after 2.2. Worst part? I am a DRG, and everyone knows how much DRG gear dropped in Coil1...

My luck in Coil2? Not much better. 3 pieces of gear, last one dropping probably 6 or more weeks ago, and one of the three I have to replace once I actually get Sands...none of the BiS armor wants to drop for me at all.

As much as it sucks, it is RNG, and I have terrible luck with RNG. Keep getting told my luck will turn around, so far its only gotten worse...

[Nicobo]

My group and I clear turns 6 and 7 just as well as the next, but I never get anything. It's starting to make me think of just quitting coil altogether. Why should I bother to continue with the current lockout system?

As it is your static group, why not distirbute loot to everyone fairly when some members are not happy with the loot. ^^;

[Hiruke]

My group and I clear turns 6 and 7 just as well as the next, but I never get anything. It's starting to make me think of just quitting coil altogether. Why should I bother to continue with the current lockout system?

I couldn't agree more. It's annoying to be a slave to RNG, even more so when you can't continually to pull the handle on the slot machine. For Binding Coil, I farmed the whole thing for quite a long time before Second Coil came out, and never got most of my caster stuff until after they removed the lockout. In the last few weeks of Binding being relevant, my group REGULARLY saw drops that we had NEVER SEEN BEFORE. And we'd been clearing it for months. Good times. Such good times.