Ishgard' s archbisschop

[Taliss]

If their pope has been tempered to worship Shiva instead of Halone

Can't there be the possibility that Shiva and Halone are the same? Or aspects of each other? They do share some similarities with each other. I don't remember any word on if the primals and the twelve were distinctly different from each other and there was speculation that they were related, or in fact the same.

[Morningstar1337]

Can't there be the possibility that Shiva and Halone are the same? Or aspects of each other? They do share some similarities with each other. I don't remember any word on if the primals and the twelve were distinctly different from each other and there was speculation that they were related, or in fact the same.

It's possible but there seems to be evidence aganst the Primals and the 12 being the same beings (Not unless the latter pantheon are hiding some dark secrets, which is actually par for the course in a Final fantasy title)

[axemtitanium]

Can't there be the possibility that Shiva and Halone are the same? Or aspects of each other? They do share some similarities with each other. I don't remember any word on if the primals and the twelve were distinctly different from each other and there was speculation that they were related, or in fact the same.

This actually isn't such an off-the-wall theory. Gods have been known by different names to different cultures over the years (Ares/Mars, Zeus/Jupiter, Hermes/Thoth, Guan Yin/Kanon, etc.). Halone also happens to be the member of The Twelve representing Astral Ice. It has been speculated that The Twelve are beings akin to primals. Perhaps the aetheric entity once called Halone has adopted (or been given) the name "Shiva" by her current worshipers. Since primals derive power from worship, it's possible that Halone/Shiva is trying to double dip from the beliefs of the Ishgardians and the unannounced beastmen tribe.

[Morningstar1337]

This actually isn't such an off-the-wall theory. Gods have been known by different names to different cultures over the years (Ares/Mars, Zeus/Jupiter, Hermes/Thoth, Guan Yin/Kanon, etc.). Halone also happens to be the member of The Twelve representing Astral Ice. It has been speculated that The Twelve are beings akin to primals. Perhaps the aetheric entity once called Halone has adopted (or been given) the name "Shiva" by her current worshipers. Since primals derive power from worship, it's possible that Halone/Shiva is trying to double dip from the beliefs of the Ishgardians and the unannounced beastmen tribe.

So you're assuming that hundu beastmen once found halone and named her Shiva?

I'd like to shoot some holes in this theory:

* Some Primals such as Odin and Leviathan have no correlating member of the 12
* The elements don't match the corresponding of the 12 for most of them
Im sure there are other holrs but those are what comes to mind for me.

[axemtitanium]

So you're assuming that hundu beastmen once found halone and named her Shiva?

I'd like to shoot some holes in this theory:

* Some Primals such as Odin and Leviathan have no correlating member of the 12
* The elements don't match the corresponding of the 12 for most of them
Im sure there are other holrs but those are what comes to mind for me.

I never said every primal is a member of The Twelve in disguise (or vice versa). Shiva has been stated to be different/special compared to other primals a number of times. This one (and I'd nominate Ramuh as well in this category) seems to be more strategic and cunning in her operations.