Ishgard' s archbisschop

[RickXRolled]

The first thing I thought to myself when I saw him during the trailer was:"Looks like they are gonna pull a Barthandelus.".

What do you guys think about the posibillity of him being some deity posing as a leader of humans to manipulate them? Looking at how overzealous most Isgardians are(witch hunts) I wouldn' t be amazed if it turned out to be true.

[Taliss]

I'm currently under the opinion that he has been tempered by Shiva.. either completely or partially. And our upcoming fight with Shiva will be bounded on Ishgardians hoping to free him, which we all know is impossible.

[Anonymoose]

I've been saying since 2010 that, based on Final Fantasy's history of having city authorities and religious zealots become antagonists, this Archbishop is bad news. Look at him. Jeuno with a Pope. At this point, it'd come from way out of left field if this guy and his inner circle were clean.

[RickXRolled]

I wouldn' t be surprised if the dragons are actually in the right and the ishgardians just being mindless sheep manipulated by some sinister being/person.

[Swishytail]

Tbh, if we're talking about being tempered/controlled and what-not, this is the first thing that popped into my head.
And I can see this happening to the warriors of light if they head into his chambers.

[axemtitanium]

Shiva is either Kam'lanaut or Jafar.

[MercuryD]

And the Eelezen lady is the physical embodiment of Shiva? (what I thought when I saw the trailer)

[Morningstar1337]

I'm currently under the opinion that he has been tempered by Shiva.. either completely or partially. And our upcoming fight with Shiva will be bounded on Ishgardians hoping to free him, which we all know is impossible.

That's assuming that the Ishgardians themselves aren't tempered. If their pope has been tempered to worship Shiva instead of Halone, that tempering would spread. Unlike normal religions, there actualy is something supernatural going on, int this case, brainwashing. The indoctrination would be permanent and Ishgard gets a new sect/cult and some brand new heresy and heretics to deal with, and they would be at a disadvantage because of the brainwashing thing, also the dragons.

There would likely be animosity between Old Ishgard (worshiper of Halone the Fury) and New Ishgard (worshipers of Shiva). Sort of like how Christians (or at least the fundies) react to Paganism (I'd say that's how they react to Muslims/Islamics but since they technically worship the same god that would be a poor analogy)

[Enkidoh]

Well, if they are tempered by Shiva, they're doing a very good job at hiding it - usually tempered are so zealous they can't wait to immediately let everyone in earshot know their 'devotion' to the Primal who tempered them. Ishgardians only have been shown to state their traditional worship of Halone, other than the heretics seen held in the cells under Whitebrim Front (and those unfortunates ramble about the Dravanian Horde, ala the dragons, not Shiva).

Besides, Shiva has not actually yet been stated as having been summoned - all that was stated in the past was that she was worshiped by "an unknown beast tribe to the north", who were "very large", leading to suspicions she's the Primal of the Gigas/Giants. But I guess we'll find out one way or another.

[Yuki_Tokita]

Tbh, if we're talking about being tempered/controlled and what-not, this is the first thing that popped into my head.
And I can see this happening to the warriors of light if they head into his chambers.

You sure about that?