This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[Sairii]

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Uhm lol NO?!

Sorry but 7 people have to wait for 1 person that does not want to watch the cutscene later?

This is an mmo. Its not just YOUR time but also the time of the other players.

Maybe YOU should make a pf group for people that want to watch the cutscenes?

[SDaemon]

Uhm lol NO?!

Sorry but 7 people have to wait for 1 person that does not want to watch the cutscene later?

This is an mmo. Its not just YOUR time but also the time of the other players.

Maybe YOU should make a pf group for people that want to watch the cutscenes?

Or they could make a PF group for only those wishing to skip cut scenes. Majority rules are fine to some extent but this whole "Use PF if you want this" is ridiculous because NO ONE is that selfless. Its just unreasonable to expect people to do that, just as when you que into a random DF, you are grouped with random people who at the start determine how they want to run the dungeon/content. If the majority want to skip cut-scenes then so be it. Having said that however, Prae/CM require less then half the party to participate in order to down the content, having a couple people watch cut-scenes isn't going to prevent you from clearing.

Brayflox's Longstop is story driven too, there is the lower level version that leads to the quest to get the hard mode, and haven't you noticed the little bits of goblin dialogue in the dungeon, that's all story, not main story line, but still STORY DRIVEN content homie. As for not ruining new player's experience, if it wasn't in duty roulette, and able to be speed ran, then new players would get to wait around and wait and wait, how immersive is that? "We need you to infiltrate the castrum and take it down now." "Sure thing, I'll get to it in a few hours when I can get some people to help, I don't want these people over here that will have it done in under half an hour."

And ironically enough people have complained about SR fanatics ruining Brayflox HM DF dungeons as well. lol

[Sairii]

Or they could make a PF group for only those wishing to skip cut scenes. Majority rules are fine to some extent but this whole "Use PF if you want this" is ridiculous because NO ONE is that selfless.

Well the OP of the thread stated that we should make our own groups for speedruns so I just threw the argument back.
I have yet to see a group with more than 3 newcomers. Most of the time its only 1 or 2.

Yeah ok since half the party is enough to clear it imma be an ass and pretend to watch the cutscenes whie afking for my 100 myth.

I really dont understand all this fuss about this.
Most people are ok with it but sure take away the 100 myth / roulette and have fun with your 60 minute wait time.

[SDaemon]

Well the OP of the thread stated that we should make our own groups for speedruns so I just threw the argument back.
I have yet to see a group with more than 3 newcomers. Most of the time its only 1 or 2.

Yeah ok since half the party is enough to clear it imma be an ass and pretend to watch the cutscenes whie afking for my 100 myth.

I really dont understand all this fuss about this.
Most people are ok with it but sure take away the 100 myth / roulette and have fun with your 60 minute wait time.

Fair enough and no because that would be afking and you can be vote kicked for that by any reasonable mind. That argument is purely nonsensical.

I agree there really shouldn't be a fuss because DF groups do what the majority wants, at the same time however when you have new players at the, often times ruthless and selfish, mercy of veterans over petty matters like this it kind of ruffles a few feathers.

[Sairii]

Fair enough and no because that would be afking and you can be vote kicked for that by any reasonable mind. That argument is purely nonsensical.

Well how are you going to distinguish the afklers that watch the cutscenes from the new players that watch the cutscenes?

If you watch all the cutscenes in Prae then you are pretty much afk from before first boss to endboss. Never fighting a single boss when the group goes on without you.
I´ve seen people do this.

[SDaemon]

Well how are you going to distinguish the afklers that watch the cutscenes from the new players that watch the cutscenes?

If you watch all the cutscenes in Prae then you are pretty much afk from before first boss to endboss. Never fighting a single boss when the group goes on without you.
I´ve seen people do this.

Because obviously new players wont sit in the cut-scenes for obscene periods of time. And you've seen it because people want to rush to their bonus, which is their choice ( a selfish one but their's nonetheless). Usually they watch the scenes as intended and then the next time fight the bosses. Its a sad and flawed outcome due to human nature but its the best they can hope for atm the way people's minds are set.