This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[ruinedmirage]

Now that I think about it, the reason they probably don't do anything is because Japanese players likely don't have this problem. Being considerate of other players and putting their needs before yours is pretty much the foundation of their playstyle, whereas greed and toxic attitudes are common here. No problem in Japan, no problems with the game, am I right? Can anyone confirm?

[Darske]

This happened to me as well, so I can understand the frustration that the OP is feeling. SE should really change how votekick works in main story quests. As it is now, the system does not adequately prevent a few impatient and rude players from ruining the endgame experience of a new player. It really ruined Praetorium for me.

They should disable vote-kick in main story questlines, and implement the barriers around your party like at the start of primal battles, so that people can't run ahead. Or even better, enable a check-box in the duty finder for people who specifically want to skip story scenes. If people can't realize that the main story roulette is there for older players to help newer ones and not just about the quick tomes, the system needs to prevent this kind of behavior and add options for punishing players that act like this. Treating new players who just want to enjoy the story like third rate chumps who don't deserve to join you on your super fast tome run is, frankly, absolutely disgusting. I for one never encourage newbies to skip, and tell people who do to shove their allagan gear where the sun don't shine.

[Gardthorne]

The daily roulette was an add on to give incentive.

Roulette exists because new players wouldn't be able to convince strangers to help them complete the content otherwise. At least, not within a time frame that would be considered reasonable. If you are queuing for a roulette you should do so knowing you have to compromise. A first timer is going to get carried through the dungeon by people who have done it countless times. If you don't want to be carried, it is on you to make your own group, not on strangers to waste their time so you can have an optimal experience. The roulette is still helping you by getting a group of strangers to help you clear a dungeon quickly.

Watching cutscenes is fine and good; the rest of the party doesn't need you to kill the bosses. Complaining that you don't get to see the bosses because you were watching said cutscenes and expected everyone else to wait is just irrational.

Now that I think about it, the reason they probably don't do anything is because Japanese players likely don't have this problem. Being considerate of other players and putting their needs before yours is pretty much the foundation of their playstyle, whereas greed and toxic attitudes are common here. No problem in Japan, no problems with the game, am I right? Can anyone confirm?

In 1.0 at least I played on Aegis and almost all my groups were JP. It was expected to skip cutscenes unless otherwise agreed upon by the party beforehand. It's just common sense. You don't ask a bunch of strangers to sit and wait several minutes just for you and you only. We had cutscenes available in the inn back then as well so there really was no excuse.

[Alipoprocks]

When I first did Prae and CM, I was told to skip cutscenes even back in September. But then it was not a big deal because it was easy to find a different group to run it again just to watch the cutscenes.

But what really blows my mind is that they kicked you. Maybe they just thought you were afk since you were silent. With so many ppl being extremely overgeared now, there is no need to wait for one. Even when we were just in darklight, I had to solo heal because ppl were impatient.

[abzoluut]

It's not the players, it's the developers. I too "sigh" when someone needs to watch a cutscene when I've done something a hundred times. Especially when they can watch it in their inn. The other group thinks "it's only an added 5mins". So I do understand both sides. However, the problem lies in how it is designed unfortunately.

You can report them though, they shousldn't kick you for that. I always ask if they mind to watch it afterwards in the inn. 9 out of 10 times they are willing to. If they're not, oh what the hell: alt+tab and watch a YouTube prank vid.

[Seoulstar]

You can watch all your cutscenes again in your Inn room.

You need to understand that many people are doing The Praetorium as part of their dailies. They have already seen the cutscenes and want to get through the encounter. None of these people want to wait 10 minutes for you to watch cutscenes.

The problem isn't with players, it's with the developers. The penultimate storyline cutscenes shouldn't be taking place in the dungeons.

Right now you are mad about people skipping cutscenes. You won't be when the tables are reversed, and you are running that dungeon for the 100th time and some guy is holding the entire raid up to watch an airship fall out of the sky, or watch the MagiTek armour do its R2D2 impression.

It's the players and the developers to be honest. It's the impatient players with the patience of a five year old and it's the devs fault for not realizing that people have that kind of patience. 5-10 wont kill you.

[Airget]

When you let fate decide your type of group you either accept the randomization or you don't. In random groups you can get good players, bad players, impolite and impatient players. You get all walks of life because that is randomization; everything is a chance. If you want to do something such as a speed run or whatever run you feel like it like EXP run(s) then obviously make your own group with your own conditions.

Honestly yes while it sucks you were vote kicked for a condition that isn't legal the truth of the matter is you to are trying to finish the dungeon in the quickest way possible.
Why don't you take the time to make a party of 7 others that want to do it for the story, instead you decide to save time and trust DF to find 7 random people for you that will allow it.

You are trusting that 7 random people will be ok with taking an extra half hour to get content done that they've done maybe a hundred times by now.

How is that fair to them. Are you honestly saying that you personally would go through that Duty roulette every day and let every new people see the CS even if it meant everytime it adds 30 minutes to the run. Time is precious and it adds up and you yourself show how time is precious because you would rather use DF to do a run rather that try to make your own party through party finder or even have found 7 other people throughout your journey who would grant you the chance to watch those CS without interruption.

You can't look at the situation in one way and say speedrunners should use PF if they want to get it done because the realtiy of the matter is you can do the same exact thing, if you want to do it for the story then take the time to find 7 people if it's that important, there is no excuse now to blame DF for your inability to watch CS when you yourself won't take the time to form your own party.

If CS are that important to you then make the party yourself and take the extra hour or two to do that. Don't blame random people for something you didn't take the effort to do.

[sanosuke001]

You can watch all your cutscenes again in your Inn room.

You need to understand that many people are doing The Praetorium as part of their dailies.

The roulettes were added to give you an incentive to help newer players and reward you for doing so. If you don't want to deal with new players who might want a full clear or to watch cutscenes, don't do roulettes.

[Gallus]

The fact is we are all paying customers, people will want to watch the cutscenes in CM/PRAE and people will want to speedrun. Then the speedrunners flip out at the cutscene watchers but you decided to join the main scenario roulette. You took the risk of dealing with new players who will want to watch their cutscenes. You cannot expect every CM/PRAE to be a speed run, it's not fair to the new players and we really shouldn't treat them like crap because they are enjoying the storyline.

There's a difference between speedrunning and waiting 20 minutes because someone is watching a cutscene.

[Seoulstar]

I've done plenty of dungeons with people watching CS and it didn't take an extra 30 minutes to get done..that's a huge over exaggeration. How is it fair to the new people that are getting kicked because they want to watch a CS? That surely gives a good first impression and surely will keep people playing the game (not). Time is in fact precious, but if that was the case. You wouldn't be wasting that time playing MMO's and to basically blame the new person for "not forming a party" is an illogical statement. I fail to understand why people make a huge fuss over this. If someone wants to watch a CS..why not do that chore you put off? Grab a drink or a snack. It's not hurting anyone and as I've stated before if time is so precious as you claimed. You honestly wouldn't be wasting that time playing a MMO.