NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Exstal]

Why is that you think that you're the only one reading the responses to your opinion? Why do you assume that it's only in response to the most recent post you've made? But you should lay off the hostilities, or you'll be reported.

[Zarzak]

Thief = Rogue = Thief = Rogue

They are the exact same thing. So no we will not get a thief. Yoshi simply went with the name rogue to designate they are socially accepted thieves (though since they come from a city of pirates this was probably unnecessary)

[LoLo]

Why is that you think that you're the only one reading the responses to your opinion? Why do you assume that it's only in response to the most recent post you've made? But you should lay off the hostilities, or you'll be reported.

If you want to address something I said in the past why don't you quote it and reply to it? I asked you what about what I said is stupid when I was just asking a honest question that is not being hostile.

If you had a comment in mind that you think is dumb or needs to be challenged why would you not reference it instead of going the route you are taking right now? Which isn't challenging my opinion but just out-right calling me names.

Thief = Rogue = Thief = Rogue

They are the exact same thing. So no we will not get a thief. Yoshi simply went with the name rogue to designate they are socially accepted thieves (though since they come from a city of pirates this was probably unnecessary)

That interview can be interpreted any way to support any argument because it was:
1. vague.
2. had to be translated LIVE and things can be lost in translation.
3. Didn't make any logical sense because there are Pirates, prostitutes, and killers roaming around with permits to do things that make stealing look like child's play and would be socially acceptable in Limsa just by paying attention to the CS for the main storyline.
(this is my person take on the interview, if you think differently, good job)

I'll wait for more information to be release.

[Exstal]

You asked a question. I gave an answer. You don't like it because of the word the image used, but I'll explain it.

You blocked Reyhart for reasons unknown to me.
He may think your opinion is stupid and is conflicted on whether to engage in a meaningless internet argument or let your opinion go unchallenged
I inserted an image macro to guess what Reynart's probable thought process

Does that make it clearer for you?

I don't personally believe Thief can bring anything that Ninja won't, the current evidence given by the people in thread as less than satisfactory. Also, why would Naoki say, "There will be no Thief >job<." It's not even 1 year since ARR launched so how can he say that if ARR lasts 8 years they won't bring out Thief eventually? Wouldn't that be lying? It'd be good for him to choose what he says carefully as to not tread over his own promises.

Side note: Japanese don't even seem to care there is no Thief job, a different world over on their forums.

[Zarzak]

That interview can be interpreted any way to support any argument because it was:
1. vague.
2. had to be translated LIVE and things can be lost in translation.
3. Didn't make any logical sense because there are Pirates, prostitutes, and killers roaming around with permits to do things that make stealing look like child's play and would be socially acceptable in Limsa just by paying attention to the CS for the main storyline.
(this is my person take on the interview, if you think differently, good job)

I'll wait for more information to be release.

Your right but not completely (I agree partially.. See my last post but there's no way an entire paragraph was completely mistranslated Yoshi for some reason believes they need to be reputable members of society so he threw in some story to support that)

Not to mention rogues and thieves are the same damn thing anyway. dagger wielding, sneaky, picking pockets, uses poisons, etc, etc, etc.

[LoLo]

You asked a question. I gave an answer. You don't like it because of the word the image used, but I'll explain it.

You blocked Reyhart for reasons unknown to me.
He may fight your opinion stupid and is conflicted on whether to engage in a meaningless internet argument or let your opinion go unchallenged
I inserted an image macro to guess what Reynart's probable thought process

Does that make it clearer for you?

I asked you to show me what you believe is stupid. You have never provided this information but instead have become abusive and harassing towards me. This is the last time I will respond to you because you are not trying to add to the conversation, instead you want to personally attack people.

On topic:
I hope they address if there will be a Thief job or not. Ninja seems to not play anything like a Thief job so there is currently no Thief job confirmed to be added or confirmed to never be added to the game.

[Legendlives]

I hope they address if there will be a Thief job or not. Ninja seems to not play anything like a Thief job so there is currently no Thief job confirmed to be added or confirmed to never be added to the game.

They already address this in the live letter at E3, there will be no Thief job. Reason is it just doesnt fit into the world. Yoshi said it and if he was misquoted on the live letter he would have corrected the translator.

I also wanted a Thief Job cause once Rogue hits 30 they become useless cause job's are the most important thing in this game.

[Reynhart]

You blocked Reyhart for reasons unknown to me.
He may think your opinion is stupid and is conflicted on whether to engage in a meaningless internet argument or let your opinion go unchallenged
I inserted an image macro to guess what Reynart's probable thought process

He blocked me because we started a long debate in the lore forum (Link) where I was partially proven right now (The part where "Thief" will evolve into Ninja is blurred while we don't have confimation that Rogue = Thief), and the debate continues here.
And actually, I don't think his opinion is stupid. I only pointed wrong facts he used to prove him right (Like Ninja and Thief never using the same weapons, etc...)

As for this topic, it's just a case of different understanding about what was said on Rogue regarding Thief. I just think that it's pointless to explain how "Rogue are like Thieves but not named Thieves because of Lore" if they're already planned to be two different things.

[Exstal]

There is no reason for them to confirm or deny if they are adding Thief job at all. They are adding a stealth class and that's what is needed.

He blocked me because we started a long debate in the lore forum (Link) where I was partially proven right now (The part where "Thief" will evolve into Ninja is blurred while we don't have confimation that Rogue = Thief, and the debate continues here. And actually, I don't think his opinion is stupid. I only pointed wrong facts he used to prove him right (Like Ninja and Thief never uses the same weapon, etc...)

As for this topic, it's just a case of different understanding about what was said on Rogue regarding Thief. I just think that it's pointless to explain how "Rogue are like Thieves but not named Thieves because of Lore" if they're already planned to be two different things.

I figured this would be the case as well based on how worthless Thief was outside of the ability to Steal in single player games and some wild implementation in FFXI.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ncer-Class-Job

This is a good read on how Thief (or Rogue now) would have been implemented if Kitru had his way. It made logical sense and people on the same wavelength as Lolo were against Thief as a class, etc etc.

[LoLo]

They already address this in the live letter at E3, there will be no Thief job. Reason is it just doesnt fit into the world. Yoshi said it and if he was misquoted on the live letter he would have corrected the translator.

I also wanted a Thief Job cause once Rogue hits 30 they become useless cause job's are the most important thing in this game.

Just a few posts up I already explained what I took from the E3 interview. If you think differently about that, I don't mind a single bit. However I personally do not see any confirmation as to if there will or won't be a Thief Job in the game.

If you want a Thief Job in this game, I say, don't cancel it out just yet until its hard confirmation as to it not being added. Look at how they changed their tune on same sex marriage. I believe more information confirming the issue will come out.