Protesting Frontlines

[Kantei]

If it works, it works. PvP expands, then more changes come later.

The past three months we had to slug through countless posts of how win traders cheated us by getting the status symbols before us! Now it is SE cheating us by taking our status symbols.

Both of which, also affected me as a player. Even being affected by the changes, I rather have a PvP mode that doesn't punish new players by gear melting them and giving them 1/3rd of the winners reward also deters the ones who get left behind from continuing to exp, because the gear melting only gets worse.

All in all, it punishes everyone. Bottlers, cheaters, and legit players.

Most of the suggested fixes here, end up with same result SE already intends to implement. Only harder to explain to the ones who don't PvP.

Both SE's and "Morale boost" negate 6 months of work for the community. It irked me for two days, then I noticed a lot of new names in Wolves Den. When I saw people from my server, I of course asked if they wanted to join a PvP shell, they said Yes.

When I am asked them why they are starting to PvP. The response was front lines. Picked up 12 new members yesterday with a handful of shouts in Mor Dhona, Mist Ward 1, and Wolves Den pier.

All in all, it looks like I need to make a third PvP shell if the trend continues.

This conversation isn't very constructive, and just shows us how pissed most are that they are making PvP less about dress up, and more about teamwork.

This isn't me saying you shouldn't be angry, but lashing out against people who agree with your words, but are against the intent, reason or cause that is making you say those words, isn't going to win anyone over.

Either way, I took the time to read this whole thread. I took what was said, versus what has been said in the past. Looked at the reason why these things are being said now all of a sudden. All in all, it was a huge waste of time.

My involvement in this thread, I consider it a loss lol. Why? Because some how I set Zulu_Kulu off again. Which is a shame, I normally agree with what he means to say, but argue against how he said it. I.E. starts his posts off with "Your wrong", quotes specific lines, and focuses on the one line versus the whole message.

Either way, in PvP, I focus on the people around me. Not the armor and items. I'm not into pathetic positions of power nor faulty status symbols. I'm into the fight itself, and the people I am fighting with/against..

I had fun collecting my i100 pieces with my friends, cross-server rivals, and linkshell mates. Them taking away my armors advantage in a new mode, doesn't negate the fun I had O.o

Either way, this is the entire communities fault. Our toxic lashing out at each other in wolves den, telling people to grind out for 300 hours in 30/40's before they can play with the big boys in 50's.

With this new mode, I don't have to tell newer members of my shell "You can legit 50's PvP with us a few months from now.....when you've earned false progress(morale gear)."

Now I get to say, "Cool come along, there are no needless obstacles to fear in this mode, just focus on learning how to read the flow of battle."

When someone bitches about losing, I flat out get to look at them and say "the other team beat you with skill/knowledge" not "Ohh they had better gear"

The past few pages had people saying the exact same things, but with various people splitting hair A,B, or C. And calling each other wrong over focusing on the smallest matter in the subjects.

If need to know why SE put the kid gloves on for this mode, review this thread and see how our community interacts with each other. Blame SE, then blame botters, then win traders, and then yourself lol.