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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    what i'm wondering is how could it have been delayed so much? It was first announced for mid-June... late June to the latest and now it was delayed by a bit more then a month. Wonder what happened there.....
    When was it ever slated for "Late June"? I must have missed that post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Actually I would since I do code and design games, but whatever.

    What I actually MEANT was that fine tuning is a pointless reason because we know very well that the people doing fine tuning will be us once the game is out. Regardless of how much testing they do it won't be bugless, we know that much.
    But it can be as close to bugless as they can get it, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Actually I would since I do code and design games, but whatever.

    What I actually MEANT was that fine tuning is a pointless reason because we know very well that the people doing fine tuning will be us once the game is out. Regardless of how much testing they do it won't be bugless, we know that much.
    Better to have less bugs. Also, it wasn't only bugs. It was the finishing of content such as finishing the animation for switching from Passive to Active modes while running. If you saw in the AA video, which I'm sure you did, it looked like garbage. They had that and some other things to work out. I for one would be pissed if they released the patch if the animation looked like that.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Actually I would since I do code and design games, but whatever.

    What I actually MEANT was that fine tuning is a pointless reason because we know very well that the people doing fine tuning will be us once the game is out. Regardless of how much testing they do it won't be bugless, we know that much.
    It's not pointless, because they want to get rid of as many bugs as possible before releasing it to the public, and let us deal with the few minor things they missed instead of something that could possibly be major.

    You seriously want them to release another feature that's as bugged as the entire game was at release? You know what kind of impact that would have on an already-angry community? Are you some kind of masochist?

    Seriously, some logic from the community from time to time would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    When was it ever slated for "Late June"? I must have missed that post.
    Yeah, I think they only ever said it would be out by mid-june "by the earliest". I don't remember them ever saying "late-june". They just stated last month that it would be delayed a couple weeks from when they had originally planned on releasing it, which could have been beginning of july, and is now the 21st. Honestly we don't have THAT many days left.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    Better to have less bugs. Also, it wasn't only bugs. It was the finishing of content such as finishing the animation for switching from Passive to Active modes while running. If you saw in the AA video, which I'm sure you did, it looked like garbage. They had that and some other things to work out. I for one would be pissed if they released the patch if the animation looked like that.
    Yeah ok, that was 3 weeks ago though.

    Regardless, like I said, it's not this delay that bothers me as much as the fact that they think it's perfectly fine and they will continue to work in this matter at which point they will most likely not reach that famous summer 2011 schedule they talked about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Actually I would since I do code and design games, but whatever.

    What I actually MEANT was that fine tuning is a pointless reason because we know very well that the people doing fine tuning will be us once the game is out. Regardless of how much testing they do it won't be bugless, we know that much.
    That doesn't make testing pointless, on the contrary, once YOU get it there is always the assumption that you are not testing, and that this is in fact the product's final design.

    Also, a bugged release may also be taken advantage of by the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Yeah ok, that was 3 weeks ago though.

    Regardless, like I said, it's not this delay that bothers me as much as the fact that they think it's perfectly fine and they will continue to work in this matter at which point they will most likely not reach that famous summer 2011 schedule they talked about.
    They are doing what they can with the resources they have. Asking for more will only net you the same results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    They are doing what they can with the resources they have. Asking for more will only net you the same results.
    I'm not asking for MORE, I'm asking that they actually keep their promises for once and stick to the schedule THEY gave us.

    I would love to see where you guys work and if you delay your assignments for a month and if it's perfectly fine, because it's definitely not for me. They're not working for UNICEF guys it's a freaking business.
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    Still 2 weeks and maybe a 1-2 day delay...

    But hmmm, what about patches 1.19 and 1.20 being by the end of September? I'm not so much worried about the date of this patch as much as the date of the next two.
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