SMN a use for ifrit...

[kujowaltz]

There will always be an egi with the theoretically best DPS over a full dungeon, even after the upcoming rebalance. And I can't help but feel that the community will continue to select it's champion and bitch about how the others suck, when failing to realize that they will never get what they want. What if ramuh-egi has great AOE skills? Will people stop using Garuda if he proves better at AOE dps? Why not dot up and contagion with Garuda and then switch to ramuh?? People don't think that way currently

[Ardan]

They continue to tick yet inflict no damage. Quite a few times I've seen him with a full row of DoTs go in the last phase with the big bombs, havinga sliver of health and not dying. lThe only boss I've seen being untargetable with DoTs still doing damage was Isgebind from Stone Vigil.

I would imagine bosses in an attack phase that can't be targeted can't be killed, even with DoTs on until a physical or magical attack hits it to finish it off. They can still take damage from DoTs, but they can't die until they reappear on the field. Not a statement of fact, this is just what i think.

[givemeraptors]

I use Ifrit for everything but Ex and Coil.
Honestly, the DPS difference is irrelevant for almost all other content and I like variety.
I think however it's been shown that Ifrit kills trash better than Garuda.

[Dwill]

I would imagine bosses in an attack phase that can't be targeted can't be killed, even with DoTs on until a physical or magical attack hits it to finish it off. They can still take damage from DoTs, but they can't die until they reappear on the field. Not a statement of fact, this is just what i think.

Makes sense, that's how it worked in WoW with quite a few bosses. Would be neat to test out and see.

[Alistaire]

I would imagine bosses in an attack phase that can't be targeted can't be killed, even with DoTs on until a physical or magical attack hits it to finish it off. They can still take damage from DoTs, but they can't die until they reappear on the field. Not a statement of fact, this is just what i think.

I've had isgebind die a couple seconds after taking off.

[Dwill]

I've had isgebind die a couple seconds after taking off.

Well there goes that theory haha

[Sen_Terrechant]

I know that the BFHM boss is immune during his untargetable phase. DoTs will stay on but do no damage.

Not sure on any of the primals.

[Dextro]

DoTs still do damage during Primals/Twin's off-screen attack phases, an easy way to see this is to focus target them; you'll see their hp & castbar reappear on the screen briefly when they pop up to attack (such as Levi's dive or Twin's Divebombs), at this point you can still see their health bar chipping away.

The only time they do not take damage off-screen is when they warp out to prepare their Astral Flow/Ultimates.

[Jamez82]

The only way to make all pets used is to give them skills that enhance one another for a couple minutes at a time.

[Dwill]

The only way to make all pets used is to give them skills that enhance one another for a couple minutes at a time.

As in Garuda buffing Ifrit's damage after doing x ability ? They would have to drastically reduce the casting time and MP cost else it would be worthless because no one will be hardcasting summons every few minutes for 20-25% of their MP pool each time.

If it's not that, please clarify.