SMN a use for ifrit...

[kujowaltz]

To reiterate my OP, the use for Ifrit I was referring to was swiftcasting him after completing contagion (also learning to use radiant shield appropriately), when dealing with scenarios of extended uninterrupted periods of low movement. At the time I was a lvl 45 SMN and tried doing this in DD an AK - to which I was told by roulette tanks and healers that Ifrit should never be used (hence my frustration and confusion). It is nice to hear that others doing coil have tried this technique and found it profitable in certain turns. I myself do this regularly now (when appropriate) as ilvl 94 and my static acknowledges that Ifrit does in fact help me, and the community has largely tarnished his rep with napkin math based on the assumption you can only use 1 summon ever.

[Dyvid]

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Well the method hinges on which pet is a better obey dps during the contagion down time. I did test both Ifrit and Garuda on a dummy target for 5 min each with nothing but obey attacks. After crunching the numbers Ifrit did win. One true method is to test them on Ifrit HM (stationary) and Garuda HM (Moving). Hopefully when I try later tonight I get a clean party meaning no BRD, WAR, or MNK since those could mess with the results. I looking for a clean no buff dps check on each pet.

*In Ifrit HM - Ifrit beat Garuda. There was no WAR, MNK, or BRD.
*In Garuda HM - Draw (Too close to call it).

[sackm]

I have a really hard time believing Ifrit is an overall dps increase on T8. I'm already MP starved as it is in T8, the extra mp ill be needing to cast dots from lack of contagion means less ruin 2 spam, which means more Ruin 1 spam, which means less autoattacks. Ifrit himself will certainly do greater DPS than Garuda, but overall I cant see it coming out ahead. Ill give it a try next week though