Novus Weapon Cost

[Nero]

I think that there must be Gil sellers on the board of Square-Enix because I can't understand the logic of this quest otherwise. The need to acquire Alexandrite is sufficient to pace the acquisition of a Novus weapon. The additional requirement to meld 75 pieces of materia (equal parts I, II, III and IV) is absurd.

I'm gathering up all the mats that I need before I do my first meld. I've already spent over $2M gil and figure it will cost $4M before I'm done. I've been doing this by selling other materia thatI get through Spirit Bonding.

I'm sure, though, that the more impatient types out there will simply buy gil to get the materia needed. According to this helpful tell I just got (which SE seems incapable of repressing), my $4M gil would only cost $28.

Seems to me that this part of the quest is a great big present to all the gil sellers.

You don't have to buy a single Materia, unless you don't want to SB them yourself, don't send out Retainers on Ventures and only if you want it done asap. If people are impatient, good for me so i make more Gil out of the Materia i create. But to blame this on SE, for being impatient ? Idk man.. seems pathetic.

And RMT's are really never a Problem, the people who buy Gil are the problem. Without buying gil, RMT's hardly would exist.

[AmyNeudaiz]

If people are impatient, good for me so i make more Gil out of the Materia i create. But to blame this on SE, for being impatient ? Idk man.. seems pathetic.

You are insane. The time it would take to spiritbond and convert the correct tiers of 75 materia would take more than the rest of the entire Atma/Animus quest line put together.

[Nero]

You are insane. The time it would take to spiritbond and convert the correct tiers of 75 materia would take more than the rest of the entire Atma/Animus quest line put together.

If you only SB 1 piece a day and are really unlucky with converting, then yes. If you do like 2-3 Sets a day, which does not really take long, i don't really see how it would take more than the "entire Atma/Animus". Well those stages took a couple days for certain people.. you mean "that long"?

You don't need to meld anything until you get your 75 alexandrites

^This.

[AmyNeudaiz]

If you only SB 1 piece a day and are really unlucky with converting, then yes. If you do like 2-3 Sets a day, which does not really take long

Each item converted has a 1 in 18 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 44% chance at getting one of the correct materia per gear converted. Mind you that 44% will diminish by 5.52% for each complete tier of materia until you are on your last remaining required materia at a pathetic 5.52% chance. You need to obtain 75 materia.
I'm not going to sit here and do the math to figure out how many conversions it would take to on average get a full set of materia for Novus but as you can see, the number is staggering.
As I said, doing it all yourself is insane and will overshadow the rest of the entire quest line in terms of time spent.

Edit: Oh yeah, and let's not forget the failed melds that will happen which you need to obtain those specific materia again.
Double Edit: Oversight corrected

People still think this you should get everything right away without any effort.

Between getting 75 alexadite and what not. I may have mine finished buy 2.4x and I'm ok with that.


Also as long as your are melding gear, even if you don't get the one you want, Sell it and get the one you do want. unless it's a elemental one then you are just out of luck.

I'm taking this quest line slowly and I'm happy with my slow and easy progress now that I've passed the ridiculous Atma portion. But I do get irritated by the false information that it's "easy" or that it "doesn't take that long" comments in regards to obtaining materia. Buying them is just a reality because it's unrealistic for even most NEET players to obtain in a timely manner.

[Nero]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 11% chance at getting one correct materia per gear converted. Mind you that 11% will diminish by 1.38% for each complete tier of materia until you are on your last remaining required materia at a pathetic 1.38% chance. You need to obtain 75 materia.

That is some weird Math there.. 1 out of 72? Kind of made up, since not every piece of gear can be converted into every kind/tier of materia. So recheck some of the Basics, before you present some percentual value's, then we can continue. At that point it may does not look as insane to you anymore, as it may does right now.

Oh and yea, what the other people said also; if it is not the correct one, you can sell it and buy the one you need in exchange. Not really that hard.

[AmyNeudaiz]

That is some weird Math there.. 1 out of 72? Kind of made up, since not every piece of gear can be converted into every kind/tier of materia. So recheck some of the Basics, before you present some percentual value's, then we can continue. At that point it may does not look as insane to you anymore, as it may does right now.

Not made up but admittedly a slight oversight of a hastily written reply. It is now corrected in my post. Unfortunately I lack the proper data to make proper numbers but following the formula even a 1 in 18 would take a very time consuming amount of time, which would still overshadow the time spent on the rest of the quest to get to that point.

The odds are better than that, like battle gear won't give crafting or gathering materias, plus the item level of the gear also determines the grade of materia you get, and the type of battle gear you are assimilating can rule out some materias as well, like DoW robes shouldn't be giving materias like quickarm. Depending on the level it is at worst 1 in 36 and gets a bit better when you have DoW or DoM only gears.

I excluded DoL/H materia from my 72 figure. Also refer to above

[Mcshiggs]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia

The odds are better than that, like battle gear won't give crafting or gathering materias, plus the item level of the gear also determines the grade of materia you get, and the type of battle gear you are assimilating can rule out some materias as well, like DoW robes shouldn't be giving materias like quickarm. Depending on the level it is at worst 1 in 36 and gets a bit better when you have DoW or DoM only gears.

[ReaperT]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 11% chance at getting one correct materia per gear converted.

Bro, do you even spiritbond?

But seriously, you might want to double check those numbers of yours.

[Zakalwe]

You are insane. The time it would take to spiritbond and convert the correct tiers of 75 materia would take more than the rest of the entire Atma/Animus quest line put together.

Yes, if you did it all yourself, but I think what most are doing is selling the types they don't need and using that gil to buy the ones they do.