Novus Weapon Cost

[CrystalRainbow]

People still think this you should get everything right away without any effort.

Between getting 75 alexadite and what not. I may have mine finished buy 2.4x and I'm ok with that.


Also as long as your are melding gear, even if you don't get the one you want, Sell it and get the one you do want. unless it's a elemental one then you are just out of luck.

[AmyNeudaiz]

If you only SB 1 piece a day and are really unlucky with converting, then yes. If you do like 2-3 Sets a day, which does not really take long

Each item converted has a 1 in 18 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 44% chance at getting one of the correct materia per gear converted. Mind you that 44% will diminish by 5.52% for each complete tier of materia until you are on your last remaining required materia at a pathetic 5.52% chance. You need to obtain 75 materia.
I'm not going to sit here and do the math to figure out how many conversions it would take to on average get a full set of materia for Novus but as you can see, the number is staggering.
As I said, doing it all yourself is insane and will overshadow the rest of the entire quest line in terms of time spent.

Edit: Oh yeah, and let's not forget the failed melds that will happen which you need to obtain those specific materia again.
Double Edit: Oversight corrected

People still think this you should get everything right away without any effort.

Between getting 75 alexadite and what not. I may have mine finished buy 2.4x and I'm ok with that.


Also as long as your are melding gear, even if you don't get the one you want, Sell it and get the one you do want. unless it's a elemental one then you are just out of luck.

I'm taking this quest line slowly and I'm happy with my slow and easy progress now that I've passed the ridiculous Atma portion. But I do get irritated by the false information that it's "easy" or that it "doesn't take that long" comments in regards to obtaining materia. Buying them is just a reality because it's unrealistic for even most NEET players to obtain in a timely manner.

[Nero]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 11% chance at getting one correct materia per gear converted. Mind you that 11% will diminish by 1.38% for each complete tier of materia until you are on your last remaining required materia at a pathetic 1.38% chance. You need to obtain 75 materia.

That is some weird Math there.. 1 out of 72? Kind of made up, since not every piece of gear can be converted into every kind/tier of materia. So recheck some of the Basics, before you present some percentual value's, then we can continue. At that point it may does not look as insane to you anymore, as it may does right now.

Oh and yea, what the other people said also; if it is not the correct one, you can sell it and buy the one you need in exchange. Not really that hard.

[Mcshiggs]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia

The odds are better than that, like battle gear won't give crafting or gathering materias, plus the item level of the gear also determines the grade of materia you get, and the type of battle gear you are assimilating can rule out some materias as well, like DoW robes shouldn't be giving materias like quickarm. Depending on the level it is at worst 1 in 36 and gets a bit better when you have DoW or DoM only gears.

[ReaperT]

Each item converted has a 1 in 72 chance of giving the correct type materia of which you need 8 different types which leads you to have an 11% chance at getting one correct materia per gear converted.

Bro, do you even spiritbond?

But seriously, you might want to double check those numbers of yours.

[BloodPact]

I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.

How many spiritbinding pieces were you wearing? I saw a tank the other day in my Expert run for the day who was literally 90-100% stacked in spiritbinding gear. I sat at the entrance and told him I'd patiently wait until he changed to a decent set for us to run the dungeon and after pulling and not getting healed I assume he got pissed and left. If someone replaces one or two slots with gear to bind on runs I'm sure no one would have a problem with it, but a whole set? It's the same thing as if you had a new player coming in with mostly Wanderer's Palace or Amdapor Keep ilvl gear.
Like you said, it's the fastest way. I just go ahead and do it just on FATEs because idk, I feel bad knowing I'm slowing others down. That and also while binding on FATEs I can choco exp and have a (super massively low) chance at Alexandrites.

[AmyNeudaiz]

That is some weird Math there.. 1 out of 72? Kind of made up, since not every piece of gear can be converted into every kind/tier of materia. So recheck some of the Basics, before you present some percentual value's, then we can continue. At that point it may does not look as insane to you anymore, as it may does right now.

Not made up but admittedly a slight oversight of a hastily written reply. It is now corrected in my post. Unfortunately I lack the proper data to make proper numbers but following the formula even a 1 in 18 would take a very time consuming amount of time, which would still overshadow the time spent on the rest of the quest to get to that point.

The odds are better than that, like battle gear won't give crafting or gathering materias, plus the item level of the gear also determines the grade of materia you get, and the type of battle gear you are assimilating can rule out some materias as well, like DoW robes shouldn't be giving materias like quickarm. Depending on the level it is at worst 1 in 36 and gets a bit better when you have DoW or DoM only gears.

I excluded DoL/H materia from my 72 figure. Also refer to above

[Alukah]

I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.

I thought open world (fates in Northern Thanalan or other places with lots of mobs) was the fastest way. I'm curious tho, why not use PF and spam one specific dungeon?

[Cosmoswan]

i don't have done that yet but i really think you have to keep ilv 1 and 2 materia on the scroll same if it with 50% or even 25% rate succes , because with one ilv4 materia(200/300k) i can buy so many lv 1and 2 so at the end i hope not have to buy any lv 4 matéria. Is anybody think same?

[Eight]

HQ gear can also speed up the SB process and you can also equip bracelets that increase your spirit bond rate. I can agree that doing this solo will probably be enough to drive people mad but in a group it shouldn't be that hard to handle. Buying the materia will always be faster but really i don't see the point of finishing Novus so fast as the next phase probably isn't gonna be for awhile anyways.