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    I'm not SB'ing direct to the materia I need because the results are too random (elemental materia). The SB materia that I create is 100% in high demand - I use the proceeds to buy the ones that I need for Novus.

    And yes, I blame SE for creating an environment that encourages gil buying while doing little to stop the practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    And yes, I blame SE for creating an environment that encourages gil buying while doing little to stop the practice.
    More like they encourage people to go out and spiritbond stuffs. But sure keep looking at it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    I'm not SB'ing direct to the materia I need because the results are too random (elemental materia). The SB materia that I create is 100% in high demand - I use the proceeds to buy the ones that I need for Novus.

    And yes, I blame SE for creating an environment that encourages gil buying while doing little to stop the practice.
    And I guess you don't realize that by keeping the gil prices up on the materia you sell, YOU are encouraging people to buy gil.
    If there was no way of buying gil, there'd be no way you'd be able to charge the prices you do today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    And I guess you don't realize that by keeping the gil prices up on the materia you sell, YOU are encouraging people to buy gil.
    If there was no way of buying gil, there'd be no way you'd be able to charge the prices you do today.
    If anyone is to blame for people buying gil, it should be the people buying the gil, not the people taking advantage of the one's that are breaking the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    And I guess you don't realize that by keeping the gil prices up on the materia you sell, YOU are encouraging people to buy gil.
    If there was no way of buying gil, there'd be no way you'd be able to charge the prices you do today.
    I love it when people make my arguments for me. I sell at the market rate and use the gil to buy materia that I need at market rate. The demand is created by the design of the quest. Most people on this thread are giving great advice on SB'ing - I mention that I also SB for the quest.

    Like it or not, a side effect is more gil selling for those that don't want to take the legitimate path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    I love it when people make my arguments for me. I sell at the market rate and use the gil to buy materia that I need at market rate. The demand is created by the design of the quest. Most people on this thread are giving great advice on SB'ing - I mention that I also SB for the quest.

    Like it or not, a side effect is more gil selling for those that don't want to take the legitimate path.
    There was demand for materia even before the quest.
    I just pointed out that while you complain about gilsellers, you yourself help feed the gilseller/buyer market.
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    You don't need to meld anything until you get your 75 alexandrites, so you can do all your spiritbonding in how everlong it takes you to do that. If you know what kinds of materias you want for your weapon, you can sell the ones you don't need, for elemental materias and stat materias you might not want, you can either meld those to gears to increase spiritbonding speed or you can try your luck at transmuting in hopes of either getting what you are after or something that sells well. Once you get all you alexandrites, just get all your gils and materias you have amassed sit in front of the market board and infuse what you have, buy what you don't. Materia is random when you get it, but just because it isn't what you are after, doesn't mean it can't be useful in getting you what you are.
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    I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.
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    Eight Corova
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    Just form SB groups it really doesn't take long. Figure out which pieces of gear give you the best chance of the materia you need and go from there. This is more open world content that people want, more content that gets people out playing together I think it's fine.

    Even if you and your group go out and farm all the mats and craft together I imagine it could go pretty quick if you wanna put the time in. I'm not on the Novus yet but I've been SB while I get there and already have a ton of materia I need for my melds.
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaFhey View Post
    I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.
    How many spiritbinding pieces were you wearing? I saw a tank the other day in my Expert run for the day who was literally 90-100% stacked in spiritbinding gear. I sat at the entrance and told him I'd patiently wait until he changed to a decent set for us to run the dungeon and after pulling and not getting healed I assume he got pissed and left. If someone replaces one or two slots with gear to bind on runs I'm sure no one would have a problem with it, but a whole set? It's the same thing as if you had a new player coming in with mostly Wanderer's Palace or Amdapor Keep ilvl gear.
    Like you said, it's the fastest way. I just go ahead and do it just on FATEs because idk, I feel bad knowing I'm slowing others down. That and also while binding on FATEs I can choco exp and have a (super massively low) chance at Alexandrites.
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