Novus Weapon Cost

[Alukah]

I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.

I thought open world (fates in Northern Thanalan or other places with lots of mobs) was the fastest way. I'm curious tho, why not use PF and spam one specific dungeon?

[Zakalwe]

I've been getting a lot of shit for going into roulettes with gear I want to spiritbind. Honestly speaking it's by far the fastest way, so if you run into a spiritbinder don't give them shit, they're doing what the most efficient thing they can do. Blame SE if you dislike it.

I haven't run into anyone like you in dungeons yet, but a couple FC-mates have and they were both fail runs due to the spirit tank that couldn't hold aggro or survive the big pulls they insisted on doing.

I spirit bond mainly while doing beast dailies (also grabbing any fates I find hoping for an Alexandrite drop, though they remain as ellusive as snarks).

[Purrfectstorm]

I make 300k+ a day crafting. I'll just buy my materia as I need them. It's going to be all right

[Nekodar]

I haven't run into anyone like you in dungeons yet, but a couple FC-mates have and they were both fail runs due to the spirit tank that couldn't hold aggro or survive the big pulls they insisted on doing.

I spirit bond mainly while doing beast dailies (also grabbing any fates I find hoping for an Alexandrite drop, though they remain as ellusive as snarks).

Was it that tank that insisted on big pulls or your FC-mates?
If FC-mates, they're the ones at fault for the wipes.
While I hate spiritbonders in duties myself, I don't say anything as long as they do their job.

They could have ended up with a tank that barely was able to enter iLevel wise too. Such a tank wouldn't hold aggro against dps that vastly outgear the tank in that case, which means the dps have to learn to hold back when necessary too.

[Zakalwe]

Was it that tank that insisted on big pulls or your FC-mates?
If FC-mates, they're the ones at fault for the wipes.
While I hate spiritbonders in duties myself, I don't say anything as long as they do their job.

They could have ended up with a tank that barely was able to enter iLevel wise too. Such a tank wouldn't hold aggro against dps that vastly outgear the tank in that case, which means the dps have to learn to hold back when necessary too.

The tanks were the ones that insisted on macho pulls, trying to play as if they were wearing their ilvl100 sets. They were nasty arrogant tanks who eventually rage quit calling the rest of the party a bunch of stoopid noobs. Granted, they were not likely representative of spirit-bonding tanks in general.

EDIT: I personally am annoyed by spirit bonders who like to do their thing through DF (talking full sets, not a piece here or there). Doing SB groups through PF or with FC/LS mates seems more considerate). But again, to me this is hypothetical as I haven't actually encountered it since CT days.

[CrystalRainbow]

People still think this you should get everything right away without any effort.

Between getting 75 alexadite and what not. I may have mine finished buy 2.4x and I'm ok with that.


Also as long as your are melding gear, even if you don't get the one you want, Sell it and get the one you do want. unless it's a elemental one then you are just out of luck.

[Cosmoswan]

i don't have done that yet but i really think you have to keep ilv 1 and 2 materia on the scroll same if it with 50% or even 25% rate succes , because with one ilv4 materia(200/300k) i can buy so many lv 1and 2 so at the end i hope not have to buy any lv 4 matéria. Is anybody think same?

[Eight]

HQ gear can also speed up the SB process and you can also equip bracelets that increase your spirit bond rate. I can agree that doing this solo will probably be enough to drive people mad but in a group it shouldn't be that hard to handle. Buying the materia will always be faster but really i don't see the point of finishing Novus so fast as the next phase probably isn't gonna be for awhile anyways.

[Nekodar]

HQ gear can also speed up the SB process and you can also equip bracelets that increase your spirit bond rate. I can agree that doing this solo will probably be enough to drive people mad but in a group it shouldn't be that hard to handle. Buying the materia will always be faster but really i don't see the point of finishing Novus so fast as the next phase probably isn't gonna be for awhile anyways.

HQ gear melded with materia you don't need (elemental resist) + Spiritbond potion + gear that increase spiritbond + FATE party in Northern Thanalan == plenty of materia and chance of Alexandrites.

[Vid]

You have to remember this quest is a Marathon not a Sprint, and more tailored to those who do not have the time to do higher-end content with an FC/LS. Think about it logically, for those that are doing The Second Coil right now you will get a better upgrade from Turn 4 (or 9). It's a faster more efficient way of grinding once you learn the fights and are able to farm them. Yes it may not have the stats you want, but more often then not people will have their main stat upgraded along with the weapon damage, which typically trumps any other stat you may have wanted from a lower level weapon.

In all honesty let's face it, the current Coil content is far easier to learn and farm then going through the hassle of upgrading your Relic weapon. Not that the Relic Weapon quest is hard, it's just mind boringly tedious. You will either be spending most of your nights Fate/Spiritbond Grinding, or wasting all of your hard earned gil on the materia you do need to upgrade your Relic Quest.

Personally for me, it's not worth it. I will have my Yagrush (upgraded Weathered Yagrush) very soon, and while the upgraded Relic will have better stats, it's not worth the time, effort, or gil for me to worry about. Will I eventually complete the quest? Sure, but sadly by the time I do complete the quest, I will already have the ilvl 115 weapon from Second Coil, and be awaiting for the next patch to bring out new content. Smarter thing probably would have been to grind for the Relic quest on my secondary class I play most often which is my Paladin, but alas, hindsight is 20/20.