So, now Monk/Dragoon have to compete with yet another class?

[Alexia89]

don't think they have the same main stats I am Alost 99% sure they will be dex stats.

Please, EVERYONE who believes this, do me a favour.
Go in game, open your character sheet and hover over Dexterity.
"Affects physical ranged damage, as well as parry and block rates".

Logic dictates they will use STRENGTH. If not STR, it will be a whole new stat (taking into account some of the ninjutsu we have seen appears to be magical damage... but then so does Dragonfire Dive.)

Edit- And, for those super special among you referencing OTHER games ("Thief in XI used DEX").. I would remind you this is not those games.
Yes, in some other games Dexterity is a melee stat generally reserved for "speed classes" (Rift for example, DEX increases attack power for Rogues by 0.5, crit by 0.5 and dodge by 1).
Again. THIS IS NOT THOSE GAMES.

@Tashigi- Really? I didn't notice the ridiculous back and forth between those making sense and those blowing sense out the window. I thought the thread only had three posts.
/sarcasm Really though. No need to call me out on it when Yoshida saying melee dps gear has already been brought up, too.

[Tashigi]

Please, EVERYONE who believes this, do me a favour.
Go in game, open your character sheet and hover over Dexterity.
"Affects physical ranged damage, as well as parry and block rates".

Logic dictates they will use STRENGTH. If not STR, it will be a whole new stat (taking into account some of the ninjutsu we have seen appears to be magical damage... but then so does Dragonfire Dive.)

Edit- And, for those super special among you referencing OTHER games ("Thief in XI used DEX").. I would remind you this is not those games.
Yes, in some other games Dexterity is a melee stat generally reserved for "speed classes" (Rift for example, DEX increases attack power for Rogues by 0.5, crit by 0.5 and dodge by 1).
Again. THIS IS NOT THOSE GAMES.

This is new and exciting and hasn't been decomposed and broken down several times throughout this thread.
/sarcasm

Anyway, Yoshida said melee DPS gear. Which should hint at STR gear.
It's a poor choice in my opinion, but if that's what it'll be, so be it.

[Alberel]

Please, EVERYONE who believes this, do me a favour.
Go in game, open your character sheet and hover over Dexterity.
"Affects physical ranged damage, as well as parry and block rates".

Logic dictates they will use STRENGTH.

So happy to be able to quote people like this with a huge 'I told you so' now that we have confirmation that NIN uses dex as per the latest live letter.

So many people in this thread look silly now.

[Felis]

So happy to be able to quote people like this with a huge 'I told you so' now that we have confirmation that NIN uses dex as per the latest live letter.

So many people in this thread look silly now.

But still use Monk gear

I have bet that it would be Str+Int, like Monk did during 1.x

[Velhart]

So happy to be able to quote people like this with a huge 'I told you so' now that we have confirmation that NIN uses dex as per the latest live letter.

So many people in this thread look silly now.

It doesn't make sense to use DEX as a primary stat before, still doesn't now. Alas, my mistake for thinking SE was being nice and clean with their stat system, can count me wrong for that.

[Tiggy]

It doesn't make sense to use DEX as a primary stat before, still doesn't now. Alas, my mistake for thinking SE was being nice and clean with their stat system, can count me wrong for that.

Nearly every game uses dex for thief and ninja classes. Absolutely nothing prevents from modifying the stat description to include damage for those classes. The mistake is thinking an mmo that's going to run for years will never change and will always be rigid despite getting entirely new classes.

[Velhart]

Nearly every game uses dex for thief and ninja classes. Absolutely nothing prevents from modifying the stat description to include damage for those classes.

Again and again. This is not other MMO's. The stat systems were established as STR = melee DPS and DEX = ranged DPS. Its simple, and easy for anyone to understand. Now you start mixing it up, now this job needs this stat, and this one procs off this one now. Know what happens afterwards? Dedicated gear sets have to be made for them. Know what happens next? That gear is thrown into Coils and other raids, which means the loot tables get bigger, harder to manage, and less chance of you getting your set pieces. If SE actually stuck to their formula, they could of just thrown NIN into the MNK category for gear (like they are doing for gear from 2.0 to 2.3) and would of been fine. Like if Dark Knight ends up being a DPS, it could be thrown into the Maiming set with DRG. It keeps things clean and the loot tables less hectic than they are now. It only gets worse from here if SE decides that certain jobs need be under certain stats.

Ever heard the story of "If you give a mouse a cookie?"

[RyuDragnier]

Again and again. This is not other MMO's. The stat systems were established as STR = melee DPS and DEX = ranged DPS. Its simple, and easy for anyone to understand. Now you start mixing it up, now this job needs this stat, and this one procs off this one now. Know what happens afterwards? Dedicated gear sets have to be made for them. Know what happens next? That gear is thrown into Coils and other raids, which means the loot tables get bigger, harder to manage, and less chance of you getting your set pieces. If SE actually stuck to their formula, they could of just thrown NIN into the MNK category for gear (like they are doing for gear from 2.0 to 2.3) and would of been fine. Like if Dark Knight ends up being a DPS, it could be thrown into the Maiming set with DRG. It keeps things clean and the loot tables less hectic than they are now. It only gets worse from here if SE decides that certain jobs need be under certain stats.

Ever heard the story of "If you give a mouse a cookie?"

I facepalm so hard at this post. If they use DEX, then they give them the Aiming gear, it's as simple as that. Which means no increasing Coil stuff, they'll just be using the same stuff as BRD. THINK before you post please.

[Velhart]

I facepalm so hard at this post. If they use DEX, then they give them the Aiming gear, it's as simple as that. Which means no increasing Coil stuff, they'll just be using the same stuff as BRD. THINK before you post please.

Yet they didn't, they gave them their own set past 2.4 and let them use MNK from 2.0 to 2.3. What makes you think they wouldn't do it for other jobs? Why didn't they let them use the same gear as ARC/BRD? Can you answer that for me? Want to hear a better reason than how BRD gear looks. I have a basis for my argument. If they put NIN's gear on BRD, I wouldn't be complaining here right now. If they do it the first time, they will likely do it again, and the pieces will stack up.