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  1. #171
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    Kuraran's Avatar
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    Shalltear Bloodfallen
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    Not needed. Also is shows you have general incompetence on how development works. They could simply make Dual Wield damage be based on DEX. Yoshida even claims it to be a special weapon type. If this is not the case, nothing is stopping them from making DEX affect these weapons regardless of the type.

    Either way, both STR and DEX exist on much of the DPS gear, so most people who level DRG, BRD and/or MNK and are interested in NIN are pretty much covered.

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    Point I'm trying to make is, no one knows what the job will entail as far as abilities, or how stats will affect said abilities. NIN might be STR based, and have abilities primarily affected by DEX. It might have a special weapon type, of which the damage is tied to DEX. It might be STR based as normal. It might not. No one knows.

    However, I'll tell you what -- someone on reddit just recently found that there have been Rogue traits added to the game's data files already. And with those traits DEX traits were added as well. Anyone can see it themselves on FFXIVDB under 2.28 Abilities.
    Since I feel like this post here is really nice for what I want to ask, I'm just going to quote it.

    Since it's already been mentioned several time now, that the Dual Wield is a special weapon type, I'm just going to ask how this will work?
    Will it be the same way the Monk-Weapon works, so you have equipped one weapon but you're basically holding one in each hand, or will it be that you can equip a second dagger to the Shield slot to make it an actual dual wield?
    I think that the latter makes more sense in this case, since they've said it's a special weapon type. And I don't really mind it that way :3
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  2. #172
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    If DEX is the main stat, woudlnt Nin just compete against Brds for accessories? O_O
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuraran View Post
    Since I feel like this post here is really nice for what I want to ask, I'm just going to quote it.

    Since it's already been mentioned several time now, that the Dual Wield is a special weapon type, I'm just going to ask how this will work?
    Will it be the same way the Monk-Weapon works, so you have equipped one weapon but you're basically holding one in each hand, or will it be that you can equip a second dagger to the Shield slot to make it an actual dual wield?
    I think that the latter makes more sense in this case, since they've said it's a special weapon type. And I don't really mind it that way :3
    It will be liek mnk, and take up a single slot. Was announced a long time ago.
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  4. #174
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    If DEX is the main stat, woudlnt Nin just compete against Brds for accessories? O_O
    No more free pass for Bards!
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Keep making the same argument in every thread you possibly can, it won't change the fact that ninja is going to be a STR melee dps.

    Also, nice necrobump.
    Choo-choo - All aboard the Incorrect Express, one-way trip to Wrongville!
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  6. #176
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    How exactly will MNK/DRG be competing with ninja? If Ninja can roll need on it, then it would be the same if it was just another MNK or DRG.


    It's no different.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Agility is a synonym for Dexterity. They both mean the same thing. Unless you are meaning something non-standard for AGI it would be kind of repetitive and pointless to add it in.
    They aren't really: Dexterity means how adept someone is with their hands/feet. Agility is more related to litheness of body eg flexibility, reaction speed etc. They are both very related terms, but not exactly the same .

    Eg: A billiards player can be dextrous but not agile and a high jumper can be agile without being dextrous.

    In XI, agility was the ranged acc stat and also the evasion stat. Dex was the crit and melee accuracy stat.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Keep making the same argument in every thread you possibly can, it won't change the fact that ninja is going to be a STR melee dps.

    Also, nice necrobump.
    They literally said it was going to be dex based. Don't say "fact" unless you have support claim it as so.
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  9. #179
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    So happy to be able to quote people like this with a huge 'I told you so' now that we have confirmation that NIN uses dex as per the latest live letter.

    So many people in this thread look silly now.
    But still use Monk gear

    I have bet that it would be Str+Int, like Monk did during 1.x
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-21-2014 at 12:53 AM.

  10. #180
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    So happy to be able to quote people like this with a huge 'I told you so' now that we have confirmation that NIN uses dex as per the latest live letter.

    So many people in this thread look silly now.
    It doesn't make sense to use DEX as a primary stat before, still doesn't now. Alas, my mistake for thinking SE was being nice and clean with their stat system, can count me wrong for that.
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