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  1. #31
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    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
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    Lol...samples are taken and used as populations all the time in statistics. It actually can be used to reflect it very well. Also, the legacy advantage died half a year ago. And the main reason FC complete SCOB quicker is because Twin was down for about a month because she was bugged. It was actually easier to gear when tome items were 10 ilvl higher and you could make accessories 20 levels under cap to meld in vitality and such. Buying an extra item every 3 weeks isn't really comparable.
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  2. #32
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    HaelseMikiro's Avatar
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    Febreealle Goldlyonse
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    just because Yoshi talked about releasing the original un-tuned version of the coil fights, in no way means that that is exactly what will happen. I still fully expect them to tuned to some level of 'yeah, we think the players will be able to beat this' before they actually release it to us
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  3. #33
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    Marina Amrita
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    just because Yoshi talked about releasing the original un-tuned version of the coil fights, in no way means that that is exactly what will happen. I still fully expect them to tuned to some level of 'yeah, we think the players will be able to beat this' before they actually release it to us
    The whole premise of releasing these untuned fights is that the dev team couldn't beat them and they want to see if the community can find a way.
    If they were going to tune it, it would just be Extreme and have altered loot.
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  4. #34
    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    The “Brutal” version of the Second Coil of Bahamut turns will share the same clear flags as the regular version, so clearing it will count towards your progress for the week. Also, if you cannot clear the brutal version of turn 1, for example, you’ll be able to leave and try the regular version. The rewards will be the same and this content is only there for the bravest to test their might.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

  5. #35
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    Gesser's Avatar
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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The “Brutal” version of the Second Coil of Bahamut turns will share the same clear flags as the regular version, so clearing it will count towards your progress for the week. Also, if you cannot clear the brutal version of turn 1, for example, you’ll be able to leave and try the regular version. The rewards will be the same and this content is only there for the bravest to test their might.
    I think the rewards should instead be +5ilvl on the pieces & a slightly different color-shade or sheen on them, title for full completion... or 1 or the other, a title isn't enough.

    Also, we need Brutal Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    I heard your original design was so outlandishly difficult, you had to tone it down a ton.

    Put that in the game!!!
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  6. #36
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Brutal mode is just for bragging rights.
    I assume probably the only fc to clear it any time soon is BG.
    If BG can't do it then probably no one can.
    Cuz they r the best of the best.
    Hands down! We can't possibly imagine to beat it without strat vids if you don't spend countless hours of wiping and learning.
    Soooo...its
    -storymode
    -hardmode
    -extreme mode
    -brutal mode
    I wonder if the devs will make brutal versions for the primals and dungeons.
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  7. #37
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    Gaven Gengruma
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    Hyperion
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    Stop recycling your content. It is starting to get old really fast.
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    Play nice.

  8. #38
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    I think a shiny version of the armor or a color-swap would be a lot better of a bragging rights award than simply a title for defeating it all.

    Maybe one title per turn completion (one for 6, one for 7, the ultimate v. being 9 obviously)... but one title, meh.

    This way people could visibly gauge your progress in the Brutal Coil.

    I love a good challenge but I'd much prefer a "High Allagan Gloves of Striking (Brutal)" piece with a new color (perhaps just swap the black/red tones to red/black) or shiny for my efforts.
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    Last edited by Gesser; 06-14-2014 at 05:37 AM.

  9. #39
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    Ice Beam
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    I think the reward for now should at least be a title.
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  10. #40
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The “Brutal” version of the Second Coil of Bahamut turns will share the same clear flags as the regular version, so clearing it will count towards your progress for the week. Also, if you cannot clear the brutal version of turn 1, for example, you’ll be able to leave and try the regular version. The rewards will be the same and this content is only there for the bravest to test their might.
    That's good news. I didn't want to get locked into a harder version simply for trying to attempt the content if there's no additional benefit for clearing it.
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