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  1. #111
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    Because you're thinking small.
    Think of future classes/jobs. Are you going to align EVERY melee to STR? Because that's just sounds lazy as heck and boring.
    It already feels bland as heck. They should mix it up and give classes/jobs a bit more personality as far as attributes go.
    Yes, they should align every melee with STR. They should align every ranged DPS with DEX, and they should align every magic DPS with INT. Its simple and easy to understand and much more organized. Giving them different stats does not give it more personality. Only the abilities and play style alone give it personality, not what it's primary stat is.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingAhmoseTheFirst View Post
    Because it has been associated with Ninja in past Final Fantasy series to be honest its only right to implement a new stat.
    Strength has been Ninja's primary stat in almost every FF game they have been in.
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    Last edited by Velhart; 06-12-2014 at 04:05 AM.

  2. #112
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    Florence Leduc
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    i don't see why people want to change the stats and how they work...
    why? simply for be aligned on FF11? one thing that sure since the start is... it's nothing is aligned with FF11 since the start. it's another game with it own rules and one of the rule is STR for melee dps, DEX for ranged physical dps, INT for ranged magical DPS.... why change this?

    other point, the monk and the ninja are soo close as type of jobs, change the dex for make it working like AGI, ok, but that means the monk too will be based on DEX... it's soo much work for change this...
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  3. #113
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    Str there, Dex here, but 1 stat everyone overlook.
    What if NIN is the same what MNK was during 1.0? A STR/INT hybrid
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  4. #114
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    Nico Robin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Giving them different stats does not give it more personality. Only the abilities and play style alone give it personality, not what it's primary stat is.
    This must be your first MMO, then. Because that statement couldn't be more false.
    Granted, we really don't have much of a choice in this game. Once an attribute is labeled the primary stat, people tend to go down that path no matter what other options you give them. It's bland/boring either way.
    Unless Squeenix adds my suggestion AND yours and then people have to choose between the item sets they wear.

    That would be fun and more interesting.
    In fact, I'd like to see that with every class.

    Ultimately however, it's not my call and nor yours. We both know who will make that call.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    This must be your first MMO, then. Because that statement couldn't be more false.
    Granted, we really don't have much of a choice in this game. Once an attribute is labeled the primary stat, people tend to go down that path no matter what other options you give them. It's bland/boring either way.
    Unless Squeenix adds my suggestion AND yours and then people have to choose between the item sets they wear.

    That would be fun and more interesting.
    In fact, I'd like to see that with every class.

    Ultimately however, it's not my call and nor yours. We both know who will make that call.
    Been playing MMO's for 15+ years now, and one thing I learned that simplicity of a system is more beneficial than making a needlessly complex system. All I keep seeing is you wanting stats to be like FFXI.
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  6. #116
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    I don't see how there's any "competition" outside of people wanting all the gear for themselves because they only see selfish benefits from gear stats.

    Dragon Monk and Ninja aren't gonna be sharing the same weapons.

    There's also job exclusive gear.

    As for gear I remember when Lancer and Dragoon had access to tank gear. Then there was gear that was simply generalized as "DoW" or "DoM".

    All I'm seeing is DPSers feeling threaten that it may take longer for them to get their gear.
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  8. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samburi View Post
    Str there, Dex here, but 1 stat everyone overlook.
    What if NIN is the same what MNK was during 1.0? A STR/INT hybrid
    Said that a few pages back. No one cared lol.
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  9. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Been playing MMO's for 15+ years now, and one thing I learned that simplicity of a system is more beneficial than making a needlessly complex system. All I keep seeing is you wanting stats to be like FFXI.
    FFXI wasn't like that. all melee and ranged damage was str.
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  10. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    As for gear I remember when Lancer and Dragoon had access to tank gear. Then there was gear that was simply generalized as "DoW" or "DoM".
    Only pre-50, sans that cavalry set in brayflox normal. 50+ all gear is exclusive, and any gear that looks the same is just a re-skin. Healers, tanks and casters tend to share gear amongst themselves though.

    I can see MNK and NIN sharing gear amongst themselves though... which in this case would actually 'benefit' the loot competition... because MNKs would have already geared up their NIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    Only pre-50, sans that cavalry set in brayflox normal. 50+ all gear is exclusive, and any gear that looks the same is just a re-skin. Healers, tanks and casters tend to share gear amongst themselves though.

    I can see MNK and NIN sharing gear amongst themselves though... which in this case would actually 'benefit' the loot competition... because MNKs would have already geared up their NIN.
    Totally agree with that last statement.
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