How do I reach 450 in T8 as MNK?

[Menriq]

It's cheating in the sense to inflate your dps higher than it naturally is. To let you post high parses for epeen.

I'm not sure I follow this line of thinking. Do you also consider eating food "cheating"? I would think it's almost a requirement to use pots during fights and is actually part of the rotation. What about a Bard using Foe Requiem, a Dragoon using Heavy Thrust, etc.? That would also "inflate" your DPS higher than it naturally would since you can't always have those buffs up 100%. I'm not sure you can discount one without discounting them all if you want to use this logic.

[rickyguo]

Just so people are aware.

A parasing screenshot can be misleading. You can use potent poison to add about 20 dps. That's 20 dps that's not coming from you.

I also consider it 'cheating' to use potions that raise your main stat.

These are things people normally don't do. Yes, it increases your dps number but they're not practical and never required.

potent poison pots is like 2 dps.

and stat pots are used normally in fights and are definitely practical. It's used in t8 to help skip the fifth tower set, and t9 to lower the meteors and help push 1 add.

although a lot of really high dps parses from melee probably included selene spd buff and a bard singing tp song to balance the selene.

[Kuroyasha]

if u want proof of someone breaking the 500 dps mark in t8,here it is:
https://twitter.com/Lucrezia_Alex/st...02319055368193
its like a month ago

Need more context. What gear made up his i103? was there a 2nd monk in the grp on dK duty? Popped X-potions? When exactly did he pop em? Used Fracture whole fight or no fracture? Was he critting like a maniac? High skill speed? HIgh skill speed on top of Selene? 4 dps or 5 dps?

I need more info to know if that is an anomaly or the norm for that particular person, and what specifically allowed him to reach that for full encounter.

[boxedwishes]

5 dps.

There is a monk on dragon kick duty, 2 bards, and selene is used.

That is all I can gather from the screenshot

[Lemon8or]

was there a 2nd monk in the grp on dK duty?

Stealing Bismark guy is the other monk. In the column for job, he's the only one with what looks like a job starting with M.

Popped X-potions?

Most likely as well. If you pop it at start, you can use it 2 times in a 8 minutes 27 seconds fight.

Used Fracture whole fight or no fracture?

There are 3 people with the letter B for class, most likely 3 bards or 2 bards 1 black mage so I'd imagine with Fracture.

Was he critting like a maniac?

He hid the crit% column so no idea.

4 dps or 5 dps?

5 dps. There's only one person with the letter P(Paladin), the last person on the list with the W is a White Mage.
Things of note, he also took significantly less damage than the other people so most likely he's just there for DPS to see how high it can go. Also, this is the maximum, not average. Of course it'd be much higher since they specifically arrange a team comp and strategy to achieve it.

[Hoshijiro]

Need more context. What gear made up his i103? was there a 2nd monk in the grp on dK duty? Popped X-potions? When exactly did he pop em? Used Fracture whole fight or no fracture? Was he critting like a maniac? High skill speed? HIgh skill speed on top of Selene? 4 dps or 5 dps?

I need more info to know if that is an anomaly or the norm for that particular person, and what specifically allowed him to reach that for full encounter.

hmm,I only occasionally look up a bit about Lucrezia,but I will try to see what I can gather from their twitters,

1.About that monk(Eis Renard)'s gear at that time,since its almost a month ago I dont recall clearly anymore,I actually read up about this a week later than their post and I vaguely remember by the time I went to check his gear,he had HA weapon and some heavily melded craft pieces.
2.Yes,the one doing 400ish dps in that screenshot is the second monk,they basically had their MT switched to monk and do DK for Renard,also according to their wording on twitter Renard was free from any mechanic duty in the fight during that time.
for reference,here is the result of their earlier attempts with this method：https://twitter.com/Lucrezia_Alex/st...09859624394752
3.other than that,yes they used Selene,ran 5dps; Renard mentioned that he usually popped potions twice due to the fact that the fights ended within 9 minutes,but not specifically on when.Beyond the above I really have no idea :/

overall they did this for fun and to test how much a monk can pull off in that situation,even Renard himself did say that he assumed anyone could have reached 500+dps if given the same conditions.

[Rusubandenwa]

Usually, that's where DRGs are averaging 457 in there while MNKs are averaging close to 500 so yeah...

OT, but is that Iori in your sig


Somewhat on topic: how do you figure out your average damage in the first place?

[Orophin]

I question whether or not people's methods of gauging this is updating every second or over a longer period of time.

[Kuroyasha]

hmm,I only occasionally look up a bit about Lucrezia,but I will try to see what I can gather from their twitter.......

Ah i see. Thanks for the info. I think i could pull off the same conditions as our ot/healer (depending on turn) knows how to monk, but usually he goes sch for t8 so our normal sch can be the 2nd bard during that turn. While impressive, I'm looking for something more in line with "normal rotation" conditions i guess. i.e. me having to do everything a mnk would normally do rotation wise, as I'm pretty much on boss whole fight as well. I did get some tips earlier in thread with managing the dots on both dread and avatar, so I'll be trying that out too.

I guess outside of that in my current gear I'll pop a couple HQ X-potions for kicks and see how much difference it makes. I really dont feel like spending more soldiery since we beat t9 in current gear, and then have pieces drop for me in coil after i just spent the soldiery would not be a good feeling xD.

[Logistical]

It's cheating in the sense to inflate your dps higher than it naturally is. To let you post high parses for epeen.

TIL: Using an available in game item meant to assist in raising your damage/healing is cheating. Don't forget those X-Ethers either.

On topic. Our monk is around 445ish at 102. We have him hitting towers, and backup for mines if one of our mine runners have Field. So he could probably be a little higher otherwise.