How do I reach 450 in T8 as MNK?

[Kuroyasha]

Hello all,

My grp has beaten all of Second Coil, so i've been trying to set individual goals for myself to keep things interesting beyond the hope of a mnk drop. So i wanted to see if i can reach a new dps height

Ive seen around that some mnks are getting around 450 in t8. How do you do that? Will my gear need to be better or is it about the items im using/not using and rotation?

I have: 110 tome weap
high allagan head
soldier body -i100
high allagan belt
myth pants
allagan feet(i90)
mog choker
high allagan earrings
myth/allagan wrist
soldier ring- i110
myth ring

Current mnk ilvl = i100

I use buttons in a blanket, but I dont use any potions. Sometimes i wont use food either tbh. W/ and w/o food i post around 420 for the full encounter,w/ highest being 423. Will I need to pop x-potions of strength to reach 450? Is my rotation just not right? I haven't tried keeping up fracture throughout whole fight either. I drop it when i see my tp getting low and invig is not quite back yet. Will I have to keep it up whole fight to reach that height?

Any tips from mnks who have posted that high would be appreciated.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

Usually, that's where DRGs are averaging 457 in there while MNKs are averaging close to 500 so yeah...

[Lemon8or]

Those numbers are probably from 1 or a few of these things:
_ HA weapon.
_ Soldiery pants at least. It's a direct upgrade of myth pants.
_ HA or upgraded soldiery gear where you have i90.
_ Not handling a single mechanics in t8. I know a guy was bragging in one of my LS the other day and I was laughing at it cause he just DPS...
For the gears you have, 420 is pretty good imo, depending on how much paeon you're getting from the bard and how many mechanics you're handling.

Usually, that's where DRGs are averaging 457 in there while MNKs are averaging close to 500 so yeah...

I'm interested to see a proof of average 500.

[ryuuken]

a question I have is:

are you doing mechanics? triggering towers/landmines/ballistic duty, etc? that will effect the dps a bit of course so its good to know.

I get towers, landmine in my 'zone', and im second in ballistic duty so it effects dps a little bit, but even with that, this past week I did 447. I dont use pots anymore, and I actually have to hold back on buffs during brainjacks and such, since I have ripped aggro from the tank before (we do single tank, and I was at 467 dps before ripping aggro and wiping raid - lot of crits this run, it was glorious).

since I am more geared than you, its a bit easier for me to reach higher numbers of course but using food and mega/x potions will obviously help. if you dont have to do mechanics it would be a good increase as well.

maintain debuffs/buffs/dots, multi dot (get avatar and dreads with dots), line up howling fist to hit both avatar and dread, and ensure your tp/uptime is 100%. tp song helps in this fight tremendously.

[Kuroyasha]

Those numbers are probably from 1 or a few of these things:
_ HA weapon.
_ Soldiery pants at least. It's a direct upgrade of myth pants.
_ HA or upgraded soldiery gear where you have i90.
_ Not handling a single mechanics in t8. I know a guy was bragging in one of my LS the other day and I was laughing at it cause he just DPS...
For the gears you have, 420 is pretty good imo, depending on how much paeon you're getting from the bard and how many mechanics you're handling.

I'm interested to see a proof of average 500.

i see. Ive been holding off on buying more soldiery gear since i've already defeated nael in this gear, but i do know that the pants are good(bis when upgraded i believe?). as for responsibilities Im usually always on boss unless bard gets allagan field(i'll then do homing missile, which isnt a problem). i'll usually call for paeon if i get to 300 tp. Is 420 bad considering that?

maintain debuffs/buffs/dots, multi dot (get avatar and dreads with dots), line up howling fist to hit both avatar and dread, and ensure your tp/uptime is 100%. tp song helps in this fight tremendously.

thank you for your post. i do usually hit the dread and avatar with howling fist. i don't hit the boss with demolish though b4 moving to dread; i usually use the demolish on the dread and then go into dragon kick etc on it. so i should be demoing the boss, in addition to the ToD b4 going to dread, and then use demo on dread? our dread goes down pretty fast so i always thought that if i couldnt get demo on it at the beginning then i would lose dps since it wouldnt tick all the way down. from what i understand, you're saying that if i dont get it on at beginning, but neglect to use it on dread completely as well, then it would be an even greater dps loss?

[ryuuken]

What I end up doing is making sure ToD is up on the boss with at least 10-15 seconds left to tick when the dread is up, and depending on how much time left on demo, I will do dk/boot, twin/true, and then switch target demo the dread, do a dk/true~twin, swap back and re-apply demo on boss if appropriate (demo about to fall off boss etc), and then back to dread to burn it down. basically there is always some form of damage ticking on either target all the time.

if by the time you would apply demo on the dread, its going to die before 9 seconds after application, don't bother or it'll become a dps loss overall.

also another big thing, are you on legacy controls? a big help in my dps came a while ago when i changed the keybinds for left and right into strafe left and strafe right, making it so i always face boss while dancing from flank/rear, and don't lose any auto attacks.

[Kuroyasha]

Ah i see. I would go onto dread but ignore keeping the demo up on avatar while downing the dread. Would just ToD. Ill do what you described when we head in on thursday. And yea i used to do mnk on legacy but then i switched to standard after reading about losing auto-atks.

Do you keep up fracture on avatar when not dealing with dread?

[ryuuken]

i don't use fracture at all tbh, the way my tp drains throughout combat, between invigorates and the occasional tidbits of tp song, it syncs up to allow me to maintain everything as long as im not using fracture.

it's a lot of tp for a potential marginal increase, and even then it throws off timing for reapplications of dots/cycles of gcds, I don't find it worth it, although I could probably toss it up before switching to dread as well, i'll probably try it on tuesday and see how it effects my tp management.

[mayonnegg]

How close to enrage are you clearing T8 then with these sorts of DPS numbers?

[Sygmaelle]

Usually, that's where DRGs are averaging 457 in there while MNKs are averaging close to 500 so yeah...

Wow, what kind of gear ? full 110 with 115 weapon ?