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  1. #141
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    Sounds like OPs opinion and another opinion that is shared by a very few.

    How about you appreciate and enjoy the new addtion of a job and find a different way to level up the class once it's released.

    You know, like Leves, FATEs, Challenge Log, Party Finder, leftover quests, or making an exp static.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    Sounds like OPs opinion and another opinion that is shared by a very few.

    How about you appreciate and enjoy the new addtion of a job and find a different way to level up the class once it's released.

    You know, like Leves, FATEs, Challenge Log, Party Finder, leftover quests, or making an exp static.
    As i have said before, those are ways to deal with the upcoming problem. Thing is, i asking for this to not become a problem from the start. Otherwise the thread will be called: "How are you going to deal with the 2 hours queues once NIN comes arround?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    As i have said before, those are ways to deal with the upcoming problem. Thing is, i asking for this to not become a problem from the start. Otherwise the thread will be called: "How are you going to deal with the 2 hours queues once NIN comes arround?"
    Now you just have to convince the other 98% of forum posters that this is a problem in the first place, good luck with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Now you just have to convince the other 98% of forum posters that this is a problem in the first place, good luck with that.
    And why i would exactly do that? You are terribly mistaking what is the target of this thread. Im not running an election or a vote here, im not asking for sings or anything, and specially not to that 98% of the forum users.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    And why i would exactly do that? You are terribly mistaking what is the target of this thread. Im not running an election or a vote here, im not asking for sings or anything, and specially not to that 98% of the forum users.
    Haha, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the whole point of a petition to find like minded individuals willing you agree with you in order to achieve some goal? Why call it a petition if you don't care what other people think?
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 06-12-2014 at 01:49 AM.

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    As i have said before, those are ways to deal with the upcoming problem. Thing is, i asking for this to not become a problem from the start. Otherwise the thread will be called: "How are you going to deal with the 2 hours queues once NIN comes arround?"
    In that case, it sounds like you are simply being reactive instead of being proactive. Proactive people have already anticipated what will happen and have planned accordingly even before that. Therefore, they aren't even phased by the announcement.

    Everyone will find their way to get to lvl 50 and beyond, espcially if they enjoy the job (or Ninja, or the idea of being a Rogue class in FFXIV). I don't see the point of what you are trying to achieve -- [DPS] Jobs will be added, and this scenario will come up again and again and again in the future. Your Petition will not delay or change SE's objective, and life will go on a month or two after 2.4, with things returning to normal.

    A superior argument would have been calling into question what the point of a stealth class in this game would serve, considering it's current endgame, metagame and dynamic post level 50.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 06-12-2014 at 01:55 AM.

  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Haha, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the whole point of a petition to find like minded individuals willing you agree with you? Why call it a petition if you don't care what other people think?
    First i have already found like minded individuals in this thread. A clear minority, which i knew before even hiting post it would be small, in fact, i thought i was going to be alone here.
    Second, is a petition to? the community? im asking the forums posters to delay the NIN introduction till another tank and healers are ready to get into the game?

    Not my style to answer this kind of off-topics post, but thats ok for this time i guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    In that case, it sounds like you are simply being reactive instead of being proactive. Everyone will find their way to get to lvl 50 and beyond, espcially if they enjoy the job (or Ninja, or the idea of being a Rogue class in FFXIV). I don't see the point of what you are trying to achieve. Jobs will be added, and this scenario will come up again and again and again in the future. You Petition will not delay or change SE's objective, and life will go on a month or two after 2.4, with things returning to normal.
    Thats the case in most MMOs, that you could say is the industry`s way to deal with things.
    Gamers and communities have become used to get half coocked, bad preseted, bad implemented not filling content. As if ATMA threads were not enough, we all have just got over it. Is a peculiar way to see how things works. Gamer`s standars have come so low that anything a devolper does is at best: "not bad enough i can keep playing".

    There is a reason why this industry is dying, and there is a reason why SE has not being doing well these few years. Lazy development efforts, an indulgent community. FFXIV:ARR has been a really good experience, do not missunderstand, but as times goes by, quality of content has been going down, since devolopers have noticed, that the love for the game makes everything tolerable. Like ATMAs, like PvP, like sightseeing log.
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    Last edited by Alexander_Dragonfang; 06-12-2014 at 01:56 AM.

  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    And why i would exactly do that? You are terribly mistaking what is the target of this thread. Im not running an election or a vote here, im not asking for sings or anything, and specially not to that 98% of the forum users.
    If you post an opinion in a forum then you have to accept that you're going to get polar opinions as well as ones allied to your own. If you don't want to engage in a debate, then don't start the debate in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    And why i would exactly do that? You are terribly mistaking what is the target of this thread. Im not running an election or a vote here, im not asking for sings or anything, and specially not to that 98% of the forum users.
    sounds to me like you fail to understand what a petition actually is then. a petition is a form of voting in a way, it is getting people to give their names to your cause.
    despite what you think that is what voting is.
    to me it sounds an awful lot like you never intended to get people on your side. kinda like you expected people to argue against you
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 06-12-2014 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    sounds to me like you fail to understand what a petition actually is then
    I tried so hard not to laugh at this rebuttal. Still laughed anyway because it's true.
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