Thanks for the reply Tule. Firstly I'll just say I meant it's a new perspective for me, and could be for others that had the same thinking as me before. The fact is that players will do what they want. Whether it's selfish or not is purely opinion that's been debated over and over, and despite how strongly I or you may feel either way, there's no absolute right and wrong opinion on this. Instead of just being annoyed at society in general for not being more supportive to each other, I'm saying let's deal with facts. If the game removed the bonus tomes or forced cutscenes in Prae and CM would everyone suddenly be getting helpful groups or would they just be queue-ing forever for any group at all? Would there be any advantage? At least as things are we can get a group at all, and I've decided to take comfort i that instead of continuing to feel negative about the situation and other players (who owe me nothing really).
No, I never meant to say that. It's much harder to get a group for a story run than it is to get a myth farming group. I think people should be respectful to others who choose to queue on duty finder hoping for a story run, but shouldn't be FORCED to help the new player. It's great if they do, but if they decide not to I respect that (even though i'd encorage otherwise). I think things like vote abandon, leave, and even vote kick can be used respectfully if there are clashing interests. It doesn't always have to be done after a row, just a simple "sorry, I think most here are myth farming, good luck with your next group" - vote kick.
I'm still skeptical :P Are you sayoing in these games I can get a group easily for any group content in under 20 minutes and be free to watch scenes, explore and play at my own pace without being kicked or harassed? If so, please explain how you feel these games achieve that environment / community and whether you think FFXIV could achieve the same?