Turn 8: How do you trigger the towers?

[Zdenka]

2nd stack does about 4k dmg which can be survived.

Just going to correct you to slightly. The stacks are both % based (its called Languish? I think). Its difficult to notice it for the 1st stack since its a low damage amount, around 15%, but the 2nd one is really easy to tell that its percentage based, as a OT WAR with defiance up will take 7000+ from it, and only take 5000ish without defiance on. So its somewhere around 85%, but basically if you are topped up you won't die.

[tOnni3]

snip.

I found this also last night, some round we got DR exploded at 1 sec AF, it simply killed us coz healers can't top up raid in time...

[Airikay]

stuff.

Sounds like when you guys phase out of first phase. Best to do 5th wave like OP has until you have enough DPs to push to 35% early.

[Taika]

Sounds like when you guys phase out of first phase. Best to do 5th wave like OP has until you have enough DPs to push to 35% early.

Thanks for the suggestion! We ran this tonight and decided to try not skipping the 5th wave (we used to use LB2 before that) and dealt with it like the OP's group. However, we still got the AF and DF exploding a couple of seconds apart. Then on some runs we skipped the 5th wave (without LB), and sometimes AF+DR exploded at the same time, sometimes they didn't. In the end we just decided to have us healers save swiftcast to heal right after DR hits and managed to survive them. We also beat the turn for the first time!

I'm still not sure what causes DR and AF sync, so if someone could explain how it works that would be nice.

[Lemon8or]

I'm still not sure what causes DR and AF sync, so if someone could explain how it works that would be nice.

They sync if The Avatar doesn't get to do the final Ballistic Missile.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...egy_in_images/
Even if The Avatar gets to do it, the only dangerous Allagan Fields are actually the 2nd and the 5th one exactly 2 minutes apart as there will be 1 DR blow up at 5 seconds left on Allagan Field's clock. How my group handle those 2 are to pop Mantra + Fey Illumination, proceed to try and crit Adlo since you have 25 seconds till DR explodes (should be a 3.4-3.6k HP shield + Stoneskin 18% HP), Fey Covenant and Sacred Soil when Allagan Field has 10 seconds left (5 seconds till DR explodes) and take no damage from them. All the CDs are exactly 2 minutes so if you pop it at the right time the first time, use it as soon as you can the second time and you won't miss it.
I also recommend to switch people on Mines tower in 1st set of phase 3 to DR tower and force pop it after the first AF goes off.

[Taika]

They sync if The Avatar doesn't get to do the final Ballistic Missile.

Thank you! Does this only apply if you do 5th tower set but skip the last Ballistic though?

[Grotesque]

Thank you! Does this only apply if you do 5th tower set but skip the last Ballistic though?

Yes, do the 5th set but skip the missle and all timing will be smooth afterwards. One last thing which maybe important. Apply the 3rd stack of the first raid damage tower in the last phase in the moment AF went off, otherwise it could be the case, that the tower fires a few seconds too early which will be most likely a wipe. All other towers and fields are aligned properly after that.

[Taika]

Yes, do the 5th set but skip the missle and all timing will be smooth afterwards. One last thing which maybe important. Apply the 3rd stack of the first raid damage tower in the last phase in the moment AF went off, otherwise it could be the case, that the tower fires a few seconds too early which will be most likely a wipe. All other towers and fields are aligned properly after that.

Thank you! We do a different tower order in 3rd phase (1st set 2xmines, 1xdef; 2nd set 2xdef, 1xmines) but might try the one you posted in the OP.

[Lemon8or]

Thank you! We do a different tower order in 3rd phase (1st set 2xmines, 1xdef; 2nd set 2xdef, 1xmines) but might try the one you posted in the OP.

I came to the same conclusion as the OP for wave 6 and 7 even for the case where they're not aligned. The timing just works out better for us that way. Here's the timing info I worked out in case they're not aligned:
· 00:00 Wave 5 or 7 Towers drop.
· 00:05 Ballistic Missile if first set of tower. Allagan explodes if third set of tower.
· 00:15 Allagan Field applied.
· 00:20 Wave 6 or 8 Towers spawn, 3 players hit towers to set timers (DR#1 - 40s, DR#2 - 60s, Mines - 80s, Allagan – 25s)
· 00:45 Allagan Field explodes. (DR#1 – 15s (force pop here), DR#2 - 35s, Mines - 55s)
· 00:55 Allagan Field applied to a new target. (DR#2 - 25s, Mines - 45s, Allagan - 30s)
· 01:20 DR#2 explodes. (Mines - 20s, Allagan - 5s)
· 01:25 Allagan Field explodes (Mines – 15s)
· 01:35 Allagan applied to a new target. (Mines – 5s, Allagan - 30s)
· 01:40 Mines go out (Allagan - 25s)
· 02:00 Wave 7 towers spawn. 3 players tap new towers to set state. (DR#1 - 80s, Dread: 60s, Mines: 40s, Allagan – 5s)
· 02:05 Allagan Field explodes. (DR#1 -75s, Dread: 55s, Mines 35s)
· 02:15 New Allagan Field applied. (DR#1 - 65s, Dread: 45s, Mines: 25s, Allagan: 30s)
· 02:40 Mines spawn (DR#1 - 60s, Dread 40s, Allagan 25s)
· 02:45 Allagan Field explodes (DR#1 - 35s, Dread: 15s)
· 02:55 New Allagan Field applied. (DR#1: 25s, Dread: 5s,, Allagan Field: 30s)
· 03:00 Dread spawns. (DR#1: 20s, Allagan: 25s)
· 03:20 DR#1 explodes. Repeat from 0:00
The bolded ones are the 2nd and 5th Field I mentioned above.

Even if The Avatar gets to do it, the only dangerous Allagan Fields are actually the 2nd and the 5th one exactly 2 minutes apart as there will be 1 DR blow up at 5 seconds left on Allagan Field's clock. How my group handle those 2 are to pop Mantra + Fey Illumination, proceed to try and crit Adlo since you have 25 seconds till DR explodes (should be a 3.4-3.6k HP shield + Stoneskin 18% HP), Fey Covenant and Sacred Soil when Allagan Field has 10 seconds left (5 seconds till DR explodes)

[Hoshijiro]

source:http://ku-so.hatenadiary.jp/entry/2014/04/22/100044

Wave 1: AoE1 (1) / Dread (0)

Wave 2: Mines (2) / AoE1 (0)

Wave 3: Dread (2) / AoE1 (0)

Wave 4: Mines (2) / AoE1 (0)

Wave 5: Mines (1) / Dread (2)

Wave 6: Mines (0) / AoE1 (3) / AoE2 (MT)

Wave 7: Mines (1) / Dread (0) / AoE1 (2)

Wave 8: Mines (0) / AoE1 (0) / AoE2 (MT)

the usual setup of my group is MT/BLM(DPS1)/SMN(DPS2)/DRG(DPS3)/MNK(DPS4)/BRD/SCH/WHM,so i made a pre-fight macro like this:
/p W1:WEST→[WHM]
/p W2:EAST←[DPS①,SCH]
/p W3:NORTH↓[DPS②,WHM]
/p W4:EAST←[DPS①,SCH]
/p W5:NORTH↓[DPS③④]+EAST←[WHM]
/p W6:WEST→[DPS①②,SCH]+SOUTH↑[MT]
/p W7:WEST→[DPS③④]+EAST←[WHM]
/p W8:SOUTH↑[MT]

from my own experience,the binding circles in w5 will be skipped regardless of ur dps due to that +1 tower getting triggered.After w6 begins if u trigger the west aoe tower asap,all AFs' explosions will line up with those from both aoe towers.In this case,Bard also serves as a great backup for towers in w6 or w7.

the catch being that in w5,most likely LB needed to be used on the dread to kill it before landmines,and about 2s right after the landmines spawn,MT will get brainjacked,so better to adjust positioning and landmine duties accordingly.

its also fairly easy to make in-fight macros with the given timeline,as the first one covering w1-w4,second ones covering either w5-w8 or w6-w8 if your dps is good enough.