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    Grotesque's Avatar
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    Alan Turing
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    A question to the crowd:

    Before patch we were able to push hard enough, thus neither the 5th tower nor the ballistic missle comes and we go straight to allagan field after 4th raid dmg explosion, which gives the same smooth timing as stated in the OP. Now, with the same DPS we skip the 5th towers but ballistics missle come before going into allagan field, which offsets the timing of field and towers by 5 seconds, which is a little pain in the ass. Our group DPS is in the range 2000-2050.
    However, we overcome this by doing a little DPS stop at 46%, waiting for the 5th towers to plop and doing the strategy as mentioned in the OP to move straight into allagan field after 5th towers without ballistic in between, which was not the nicest but nevertheless working approach.
    Anyone else has experienced something like this in T8 currently?
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    Dudude Dude
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    I've also no longer seen that ballistic missile get skipped if you push in four sets of towers, but we haven't really changed our tactics around it.
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    You need to apply the same concept for skipping Ballistic Missiles that you have with the 5th Tower Set to the 4th Tower Set, aka ending the set earlier by ensuring every tower gets triggered at least once. Skipping ballistic missiles is dependent on when exactly you push to 45% and also whether you end the tower phase early.

    Using the OP's tower triggers, if you push to 45% during the lull between the end of the 4th Tower set and start of the 5th Tower set, you skip 5th Tower set and Allagan Field comes out with the timing that makes your 6th Tower Set triggers work out for your group. If you push to 45% during the 4th Tower Set, you'll get a Ballistic Missile and throw off the timing of Allagan Field. If you change your triggers to Wave 4: Mines (2) | Raid West (1), Ballistic Missile gets skipped when you push to 45% during that set. The way some groups handle the final 3 tower phases makes Allagan Field timing completely moot.
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    Thank you for the explanation, that makes it clear and sounds reasonable. We will try that in the next ID.
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    However, if you don't skip 5th towers, you can use this time to push Avatar much further, thus at the end you don't see the 8th towers at all, which is also nice, so you have only tower 6 and 7 with enough dps.
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    Tashim Wyrd
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 70
    T1: Dread (2)
    T2: Mines (2)
    T3: Dread (2)
    T4: Mines (2) (hold at 45%+ for T5 to start)
    T5: Dread (2), Mine (1) (LB dread to have it clear for mines. tank will have brainjack during mines)
    T6: West (3), South (1), Mines (0) (West and South explode with AF, no reactive dmg)
    T7: West (2), Dread(1), Mines (0) (West explodes with AF)
    T8: West (3), South (1), Mines (0) (ignore mines)

    This puts mines exploding during transitions, South and West towers explode only when AF is down (being cast), so there is never any reactive damage.
    With solotank, the tank can help with mines for all but tower5, where he'll have brainjack. Avoid Diffusion Ray when running to the tank side to pick up mines. If you're quick, this isn't a problem.

    The necessary healing for the fight is far less when you desync mines with towers, and sync up towers with Allagan field. This gives healers some extra time, so I like to have them push towers as much as possible to give dps more uptime on the boss.
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    Free Lancer
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    We only get 6 tower sets. We don't hold. We just push straight through. DPS may be a bit too high for the turn.

    T1: Dread (2)
    T2: Mines (2)
    T3: Dread (2)
    T4: Mines (2)
    T5: West (0), South (1), Mines (2)
    T6: West (1), Dread(0), Mines (2)

    By the end, the mines pop right as The Avatar dies, so we don't bother with popping the landmines, just finish it off. It's normally at 1-2% at that point when the mines appear on the screen.
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