Lvl 50 Arcanist is it wrong?

[chunli1245]

No disrespect but being a Summoner hasn't been beaten to death? In any case I'll just pick it up so i won't have to hear it anymore.

Thanks for the input guys / gals

Bard get's Invigorate.

EDIT: As a side note, lvl 50 Arcanist is not a new idea. It's an old one that's been beaten to death.

Not sure about Archer though... that's a bit more interesting. Bard songs are largely wasted in 4 mans and I'm not sure how much DEX you lose when you ditch the crystal.

[Bombast]

No disrespect but being a Summoner hasn't been beaten to death? In any case I'll just pick it up so i won't have to hear it anymore.

Thanks for the input guys / gals

By beaten to death, I mean 'proved inferior over and over and over and over and over.'

[chunli1245]

(Not you) But if someone just says something is inferior and don't say why i won't know why... But as i said before thanks for all the input i want to play and enjoy the game not get drilled by jerks. That can take the time to get mad and rage quit instead of helping a player in need. I will still play as an Arcanist like i said i like the debuffs but i will do so solo. I will do high lvl dungeons as Summoner.

By beaten to death, I mean 'proved inferior over and over and over and over and over.'

[Kerberon]

(Not you) But if someone just says something is inferior and don't say why i won't know why... But as i said before thanks for all the input i want to play and enjoy that game not get drilled by jerks. That can take the time to get mad and rage quit instead of helping a player in need. I will still play as an Arcanist like i said i like the debuffs but i will do so solo. I will do high lvl dungeons as Summoner.

Can someone explain what debuffs they're even mentioning? All I can figure is blood for blood and internal release which are buffs. I'm currently leveling up my arcanist (mostly in dungeons as a scholar for fast queues) and I can't imagine using anything but summoner when I want to dps. For one fester melts faces, and the extra int just adds more and more damage. Not using a soul crystal just seems very counter productive.

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Most are just Dot debuffs but i like them an i also am a Scholar and i love that class. As i said before i am not trying to drag a team down. I want to win just like everyone else i was just asking is being a Lvl 50 Arcanist wrong? And my god like dipping a doughnut in water i guess it is lol.

That really doesn't answer my question. I guess you are talking about aero which is a 50 potency initial tick then a 25 potency dot. Fester adds 190 potency total if I understand the math right to your dots. That means aero is losing you 165 potency, and that doesn't even take into account the damage loss from less stats.

Not trying to give you a hard time, I just don't understand at all what you think could ever make arcanist better under any circumstances, especially with your repeated mentioning of debuffs which I can't find a single one that you could use as an arcanist.

[chunli1245]

Most are just Dot debuffs but i like them an i also am a Scholar and i love that class. As i said before i am not trying to drag a team down. I want to win just like everyone else i was just asking is being a Lvl 50 Arcanist wrong? And my god like dipping a doughnut in water i guess it is lol.

Can someone explain what debuffs they're even mentioning? All I can figure is blood for blood and internal release which are buffs. I'm currently leveling up my arcanist (mostly in dungeons as a scholar for fast queues) and I can't imagine using anything but summoner when I want to dps. For one fester melts faces, and the extra int just adds more and more damage. Not using a soul crystal just seems very counter productive.

[Geobryn]

Most are just Dot debuffs but i like them an i also am a Scholar and i love that class. As i said before i am not trying to drag a team down. I want to win just like everyone else i was just asking is being a Lvl 50 Arcanist wrong? And my god like dipping a doughnut in water i guess it is lol.

summoner = arcanist + summoner skills
only thing you loose is ability to pickup 6? more cross class skills and the pallet of them as you are limited to only 2 classes you can choose from

[chunli1245]

And are you saying as a Summoner i can still use Bio 1 & 2 / Energy Drain / Miasma / Virus & Super Virus. If so that good to know which is really all I'm asking i don't know everything about this game. Any help on playing my class better is always welcome.

summoner = arcanist + summoner skills
only thing you loose is ability to pickup 6? more cross class skills and the pallet of them as you are limited to only 2 classes you can choose from

[chunli1245]

It alright i asked for advice so hey & Aero is not an Arcanist ability Bio 1 & 2 / Energy Drain / Miasma while many think it useless there are enemy mage's that heal themselves so Miasma can come in handy / Virus & Super Virus Reduces target's STR and DEX by 15%. Supervirus: INT, and MND damage added. / Bane which spreads a target's Bio, Bio II, or Miasma to all nearby enemies can help weaken enemies which makes them easier to pick off. I like the Arcanist class sorry but i do however i will pick up Summoner.

[Kerberon]

It alright i asked for advice so hey & Aero is not an Arcanist ability Bio 1 & 2 / Energy Drain / Miasma while many think it useless there are enemy mage's that heal themselves so Miasma can come in handy / Virus & Super Virus Reduces target's STR and DEX by 15%. Supervirus: INT, and MND damage added. / Bane which spreads a target's Bio, Bio II, or Miasma to all nearby enemies can help weaken enemies which makes then easier to pick off. I like the Arcanist class sorry but i do however i will pick up Summoner.

Umm you don't lose arcanist abilities by picking up summer, you keep your base class abilites, the only thing you lose is some cross class skills getting one every 10 levels instead of every 5.

You also don't get to cross class conjurer skills like aero, blood for blood, etc. But what you get from summoner well makes up for that.