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    Kuroyasha's Avatar
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.
    Man people who think like this would be lost in a game that had proper Clerics.
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    Enk'i Faer
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    That's efficient and effective.
    Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.
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    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka View Post
    Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

    I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.
    So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.
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    hours's Avatar
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    Mint Chocolate
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hours View Post
    If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.
    Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

    If that green icon needs to something out of it's designed routine, then all the rest better put in something extra too. For the sake of efficiency right? Tanks please off your tank stance and deal more DPS please. DPS please self heal from time to time, don't waste your MP so your green icon team mate can continue to DPS and heal the blue icon not on tank stance a little more.

    Don't say it's not do-able thou. Defiance is not really needed outside coil. My WAR is i84 cos I am using i70 DPS accessories. Holding single target and AoE hate easily. There are a few times I've tanked dungeons like Haukke Manor HM with a Sword Oath PLD till the last boss before realizing that I wasn't on Shield Oath, I told the team and every one was lol'n cos no one noticed a difference.
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    Last edited by Ooshima; 06-10-2014 at 11:11 AM.

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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

    Exactly. Anything a healer does beyond healing in a PuG is a bonus to the team. Kicking a healer for not DPSing(in DF) is an abuse of the system. And just because a healer is only healing with Eos doesn't mean he's AFK. So kicking him without confirming he's AFK could be an abuse of the system. as well.

    Don't get me wrong, I DPS in low level dungeons as a healer. Not because the rest of my team is entitled to it, only because I want it to go quicker.
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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.
    As a tank I NEVER stop using skills while fighting mobs. Is it really too much to expect the same from the rest of my party?
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    Player Virgil's Avatar
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    Virgil Cesius
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.
    There's nothing selfish about it. I'm doing my job. DPSing as a healer is going the extra mile for your party, whether you think they should or not. It just so happens that Eos and Selene are capable of handling all the healing under certain circumstances and I'm going to take advantage of that how I see fit. If I feel like popping cleric stance and spamming ruin to help dps a little, cool. If I feel like watching youtube in the middle of fights because Eos happens to be more healing than the party needs then I'm going to do that.

    I'm sorry that you're offended because you're too "principled" to slack in a harmless fashion.
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