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[Mandudez]

While I always DPS in low level dungeons I have no issue with healers that only heal or tanks that only tank. Yes, it would be more optimal if both tank and healer dished out some damage to speed things up when they have their main priorities under control, but it's not strictly required.

I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.

[Kuroyasha]

I just think that it is unfair to expect some members in the party to be active and participating in the dungeon the entire time while others get to lounge back and take it easy. That is just being horribly lazy and a waste of everyone's time. If everyone played their roles minimally then you'd see dungeons taking 2-3x longer than normal to complete for no reason other than sheer laziness.

If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.

[ispano]

If the fairy is keeping people alive, then time isn't wasted. The dps are still dpsing, the tank is still tanking. The healer can dmg as well of course, but that's time gained from someone doing something extra outside of their role. Not time wasted. Not being horribly lazy either. If the fairy can heal the healer can get something done IRL while getting the tomestones from the run or getting exp if they're leveling. That's efficient and effective.

Man people who think like this would be lost in a game that had proper Clerics.

[Manuka]

That's efficient and effective.

Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.

[Virgil]

Yeah for you, not for the other three people that have to slag through a longer boring run while you leech off their work so you can Alt-tab and do stuff that I'm sure they wish to do too. I'm honestly surprised so many people actually support this, if you actually do this you're no different than low-lvl an pvp bots imo and I would vote kick you without question. Fortunately I main healer so I've never had the luxury of dealing with a SCH follow bot, but if they're anything like bard/ tank bots I've had to deal with I can understand why OP is annoyed.

If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.

[ispano]

If I can be lazy and do nothing while still being able to do my job 100% (healing) then you can bet your ass that I'll do just that.

I'm guilty of doing lower level dungeons on sch and letting Eos and Selene do all the work. I don't regret it.

So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.

[hours]

If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.

[Ooshima]

If you expect me to go all out and carry you with both heals and DPS for the sake of "efficiency", you'd better unequip your job crystals and put in cure, physick, stoneskin, provoke, etc as your cross class skills too.

Exactly. Like what I said earlier, healer's job icon is green. It's design to HEAL. Anything else is a bonus and people should learn to appreciate it instead if that stupid entitled attitude.

If that green icon needs to something out of it's designed routine, then all the rest better put in something extra too. For the sake of efficiency right? Tanks please off your tank stance and deal more DPS please. DPS please self heal from time to time, don't waste your MP so your green icon team mate can continue to DPS and heal the blue icon not on tank stance a little more.

Don't say it's not do-able thou. Defiance is not really needed outside coil. My WAR is i84 cos I am using i70 DPS accessories. Holding single target and AoE hate easily. There are a few times I've tanked dungeons like Haukke Manor HM with a Sword Oath PLD till the last boss before realizing that I wasn't on Shield Oath, I told the team and every one was lol'n cos no one noticed a difference.

[Virgil]

So, selfish then. At least you're honest about it.

There's nothing selfish about it. I'm doing my job. DPSing as a healer is going the extra mile for your party, whether you think they should or not. It just so happens that Eos and Selene are capable of handling all the healing under certain circumstances and I'm going to take advantage of that how I see fit. If I feel like popping cleric stance and spamming ruin to help dps a little, cool. If I feel like watching youtube in the middle of fights because Eos happens to be more healing than the party needs then I'm going to do that.

I'm sorry that you're offended because you're too "principled" to slack in a harmless fashion.

[ispano]

There's nothing selfish about it. I'm doing my job. DPSing as a healer is going the extra mile for your party, whether you think they should or not. It just so happens that Eos and Selene are capable of handling all the healing under certain circumstances and I'm going to take advantage of that how I see fit. If I feel like popping cleric stance and spamming ruin to help dps a little, cool. If I feel like watching youtube in the middle of fights because Eos happens to be more healing than the party needs then I'm going to do that.

I'm sorry that you're offended because you're too "principled" to slack in a harmless fashion.

Offended? Never said I was offended. But yes, it's selfish. 1/4 sees that they can get away with putting in less or even no effort compared the their team mates. They then take advantage of that. It's selfish. I never really have a problem with people being that way, I just leave if I think it's an issue and don't make a stink about it. What I see as the real problem is people saying it's not selfish or whatnot, when it is. Be honest about it, don't try to prop yourself up as the innocent.