Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Alcide]

Uhm so... 1 dungeon for r25 ppl and 1 for r50 and they have a limitation on the number of groups... well if I thought the dev team don't know what they are doing now I don't have any doubt...

Besides we can't say it's gonna be a big deal, with the current population I doubt someone is gonna have to wait to enter a dungeon...

[BloodLotus]

Since he mention big PvE before, and he says that raid is not his huge PvE, so I think multiple party is possible.
however, I wonder about his post, did he mean that 1.18 will have 3 dungeon on rank 50? or it is just his wish?

I think he meant that he thought a game should have at least 3 dungeons on launch, and since the original team had none of that the new team is starting from scratch.

I believe his hope is to get us stuff to do as soon as possible after laying all the groundwork down.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Uhm so... 1 dungeon for r25 ppl and 1 for r50 and they have a limitation on the number of groups... well if I thought the dev team don't know what they are doing now I don't have any doubt...

Besides we can't say it's gonna be a big deal, with the current population I doubt someone is gonna have to wait to enter a dungeon...

My only problem with this is that they have stated that Dungeons are supposed to be a viable EXP substitute for the Guildleve linkinge EXP parties we have currently. It is going to be hard to pick up a group of 4 or 8 people to grind in the dungeons if they are full, especially if they fill up fast during prime playing hours.

[Rowyne]

Please don't tell me instances can only be entered by one group at a time?...Please don't...just don't...

Cause right now it sounds as if a 4man party is inside the R30 dungeon, that any other party that might want to do the R30 dungeon as well, have to wait for the other 4 to get out of it first...and this is just unacceptable in these times.

I was beginning to think I was the only person who was panicked by reading this. I am NOT going to stand in line and wait to enter an instanced dungeon. That practically negates the idea of them being instanced.

This is why WoW has separate instance servers, so there can be hundreds of groups running dungeons and raids, all at the same time, all in their own instances.

[AeraLucis]

I was beginning to think I was the only person who was panicked by reading this. I am NOT going to stand in line and wait to enter an instanced dungeon. That practically negates the idea of them being instanced.

This is why WoW has separate instance servers, so there can be hundreds of groups running dungeons and raids, all at the same time, all in their own instances.

Yeah, this seems like the obvious way to go. If they end up making groups wait in line, we're going to see a LOT of unhappy campers. (no pun intended)

[Malakhim]

Yeah, this seems like the obvious way to go. If they end up making groups wait in line we're

*puts on sunglasses*

going to see a LOT of unhappy campers.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

Fixed for ya.

[Molly_Millions]

I was beginning to think I was the only person who was panicked by reading this. I am NOT going to stand in line and wait to enter an instanced dungeon. That practically negates the idea of them being instanced.

Practically? It does negate them being instanced.

[Balbanes]

Having to develop new content while keeping the live servers working and maintained seriously subtracts resources.

Because server technicians also generally work as game developers? Please, let's let this ridiculous argument die already.

[Davorok]

I was beginning to think I was the only person who was panicked by reading this. I am NOT going to stand in line and wait to enter an instanced dungeon. That practically negates the idea of them being instanced.

This is why WoW has separate instance servers, so there can be hundreds of groups running dungeons and raids, all at the same time, all in their own instances.

It will be even worse if there is not a Reservation System in place. Imagine you've been waiting 59 minutes for the next Instance and someone else just walks up and gets lucky and gets in ahead of you.

[VydarrTyr]

Please don't tell me instances can only be entered by one group at a time?...Please don't...just don't...

Obviously, I can't say for sure what he meant. But I find it very difficult to believe that only one group can be in the dungeon at one time. I mean, that would be so dumb it's just not realistic. As much as they've been hyping up these dungeons, even going so far as to change the focus of the game away from leves and toward dungeons, there's really no way they're going to limit them to one party at a time. They know we're going to make a mad rush for those dungeons as soon as they're released. Forcing us to wait in week-long lines after release would be disastrously stupid.

I think he's suggesting that there is a physical limit to the number of parties who can be running the dungeons at one time. That's just practical reality, since the dungeons will be hosted on instanced servers, and the servers can't hold an unlimited amount of data. Eventually, the servers are going to fill up, and more players won't be able to get in without the dungeons running really, really slowly for everyone. That would also be bad, so they have to put a limit on the number of parties that can run them at one time.

As Yoshi-P says, that's another reason why they require parties of at least 4 or 8. If people are allowed to solo them, there will be 4 times as many r30 dungeons being run at one time, and there will be 8 times as many r50 dungeons being run at one time. So the servers would fill up much more quickly.

I also suspect that the number of players trying to run dungeons -- and as a result, any potential wait times -- will be worst right after the dungeons are released. But maybe that will be mitigated somewhat by the precursor quests that you're required to complete before you can enter the dungeons.