Battle Reform: Enmity (07/06/2011)

[Shyd]

Good thing is that now you will able to gauge it by yourself

This is true

[PrettyPrincess]

I am pleased with this newspost

[Kysenna]

Before I started playing FFXI, I read about enmity and how you should be careful not to get too much hate. So, I expected there to be an indicator telling you just how much hate you had.

Obviously FFXI didn't have that. But I'm glad FFXIV will.

watching your damage just in case you go OTT is part of the fun, I don't want to methodically be able to see exactly how much I can do. I would rather get a feel for it, more fun that way.

I imagine that's why they made it a series of icons, instead of a progress bar. If you've got the red icon, you know you're close to the top - but you don't know how much wiggle room you've got left.

Or atleast a better implementation of this scale such as:

No Icon
Green Icon
Orange Icon
Red Icon
<~~enemy is attacking you~~>
Blinking Red

That actually *is* what they're saying. It's worded a little strangely, but you can tell from context that "Taking action against you" means you're on the hate list, and "being targeted" means it's biting your face.

On a side note, I'm surprised to hear people say they didn't like the aggro icon. I mean, I do appreciate that you can toggle it off, but I love being able to run around and explore without checking a wiki every thirty seconds to see what will and won't kill me. I miss it when I play FFXI ;_;

[Sephr]

By subscription, i mean the account that's associates my character with my personal data and payment information which was required to make one in the first place.

And sure you could calculate it, but during a battle with an alliance? I have never seen anyone escape a wipe through calculating hate or warn someone else about hate levels. It was up to every member to determine how enmity shifted and gear that affected enmity played a role in it as well. It was the main difficulty of the combat system and you're only spouting nonsense.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Libra

[SuzakuCMX]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Libra

Lulz.

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For funsies.

Also, Libra is my favorite Final Fantasy spell.

[Noctura]

I see a lot of responses saying "FFXI was not like this". This is not FFXI, people should get over that game (at least the ones who have moved on), if you can not, then go back and play it for a while and keep checking FFXIV development from time to time.

I found your post to be pretty insulting ... if SE wanted us to "get over it" they wouldn't have made the races almost identical... If FFXIV is nothing like FFXI... I won't be playing it nor will any of my friends. Seeing as it got many of it's players because they played FFXI I agree with Jennestia. If you want this game to succeed don't start telling it's players to go elsewhere.

One reason it's being compared is that a lot of FFXI players that know how good FFXI is wonder how SE could have made such monumental errors because of their experience with FFXI and the fact that SE didn't even take from FFXI what actually worked and instead tried to do a reinvention of the wheel. If you don't like that FFXI was better, and that this team should be USING their own experience with a great mmo for this game.... then I believe you are just looking for someone to be mean to... let the FFXI players make their comments, they aren't going to get over it.... so get over that.
You are entitled to your opinion and I won't bother asking you to change it.... but your statement to get over it or go back is pretty negative ... and no I am not going anywhere just because I like FFXI better.
I welcome all new changes SE might have for this game.... but they need to get with it and just use what works while adding their new features.
I have been watching the game since release, and plan to continue doing so... why? Because I loved FFXI. That game shows me how much potential this one could have. FFXI is the only game to ever hold my interest every day for 8 years. I am pretty sure they were doing something right.

I apologize for sounding angry and I don't post often... but you made a pretty bad impression on me. Sorry if I misjudged your character or your meaning... but we are miserable enough without people telling us to go away because we miss good things about FFXI that would make XIV so much better.... we want to help as much as you do to improve the game and we wouldn't comment, be here, or care if we didn't.

[Eekiki]

I like the simplified calculations, but the icon? No thanks.

World of Final Fantasycraft continues to take shape...

[nibelunc]

I wasnt looking forward the first time i heard from a hate bar on the screen but the news about an icon made me very happy. Just release this patch sometime in this life.

[PrettyPrincess]

Maybe SE will add a toggle for those of you whining

[slipmac]

ppl complain about no mouseover info and poor food info. now they are complaining about threat info. anyone who is aginst this SE should blacklist would make the job they have easier in the future.

and if you notice most post for this has a lot of likes and all the ones aginst it have like 0-1.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Libra

i dont know why i didnt think of this.

imo you would only see your threat on the target. maybe along side the part list you could see party threat.
so only the tank sees the blinking unless he is looking at the party list.
the healer would just see orange or red.
and the dd would see green. as in go go go!
i dont see the problem in this.
personaly the more info the better.