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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

    Read it and understand why your argument holds no ground.

    I already acknowledged some people may have technical problems. A game that is meant to have any kind of action in it should not try to cater to them, because it defeats the original purpose.
    It may be an anecdote when you read it, but as I personally experienced it I can assure you it was fact. Just brushing it away as an anecdote doesn't change the fact that it happened to me, I know it's happened to other people, and it will happen again. Enough anecdotes that all agree with one another eventually becomes an observation that should be acknowledged. Your "omg why are people claiming lag" attitude doesn't help at all in the face of that. Even if only 5% of the community is affected it doesn't change that this happens, and it's not just players whining because they screwed up. Acting all surprising and trying to claim that people should just know the rotations won't change the fact that you're obviously making assumptions that it's just people screwing up. Acknowledging people have technical issues means nothing when you specifically say

    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    You don't freaking need 50ms latency to dodge a landslide because:


    1. You know exactly when it's coming. Exactly when it's coming
    2. You know exactly where it's going to be. People stack behind Titan's ass, so the dodge patter is always the same.
    You can't acknowledge that some people have problems but in the same breadth act like it shouldn't be an issue at all. Packet loss makes your entire point null and void anyway.

    The main point I want to make comes down to this. Some people do have network and computer problems. When you have the attitude that it should be easy just knowing the rotations then you have an attitude based entirely on false assumptions based on nothing more than your own personal experiences (see your own link for anecdotes), and we all know what happens when you make assumptions. I have no doubt some people use lag as an excuse, but assuming that they all are is an outright fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    You can't acknowledge that some people have problems but in the same breadth act like it shouldn't be an issue at all. Packet loss makes your entire point null and void anyway.
    No, packet loss makes your point null. Thing is, packet loss is not the lowest denominator an online video game should be based on, because packet loss is a symptom of a poor connection.

    The whole argument here is "my net lags, nerf Titan". My point is "if your net is lagging to the point where Titan is literally impossible to beat, you have bigger problems than not beating Titan".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    The whole argument here is "my net lags, nerf Titan". My point is "if your net is lagging to the point where Titan is literally impossible to beat, you have bigger problems than not beating Titan".

    I'm not arguing to nerf titan. I'm arguing against the attitude that players who claim lag are all lying or they should just learn the rotation. That is not one size fits all, and It precludes any possibility that someone is genuinely lagging. That attitude is bad for the game and for the community. It's a bad attitude to have to have period.
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