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  1. #31
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    ShinkuTachi's Avatar
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    Pyro Frost
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Buffing the Black Mage will only cause scrub Black Mages
    Just look at all those scrub MNKs running around after 2.1
    Balancing helps no one, amirite~
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  2. #32
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Buffing the Black Mage will only cause scrub Black Mages
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryihito View Post
    And here is where you lost your credibility.
    That is literally the definition of taking out of context. The sentence he actually said is accurate to a degree.

    The fact of the matter is equally geared black mages are preforming 10-20% lower than other dps classes in single target. With how much single target burn phases there are in second coil, it just isn't worth taking them over a skilled summoner or bard for the ranged slot.
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  3. #33
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    If you don't frequent the dps boards, Akiza posts stupid crap on a weekly basis and clearly isn't a very good SMN.
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  4. #34
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    Sileas Goode
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    If you don't frequent the dps boards, Akiza posts stupid crap on a weekly basis and clearly isn't a very good SMN.
    Cant be any worse than the "I don't use manawall and manaward" blackmage who puts every defensive and debuff cooldown into one macro and claim to not use them because it's all the healer's job and if a blackmage has to use wall/ward, the healer is bad...right?
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  5. #35
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    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    they are against the ToS and therefore illegal in the game, pretty sure though they have no real way to know unless you mention them or the parser injects something into the logs.
    personally I still think parsers where you can see everyone else's DPS are a bad idea. they cause bad blood so I can see why SE doesn't want them.
    Its worse not having them because people still use them and there are a few different ones with widely different outputs. And sometimes this can lead to even worse issues. At least if there was an official, we would have a base one for everything. And when people say numbers someone in game can be like hmmm...mines mpt that high let me look at my rotation

  6. #36
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Cant be any worse than the "I don't use manawall and manaward" blackmage who puts every defensive and debuff cooldown into one macro and claim to not use them because it's all the healer's job and if a blackmage has to use wall/ward, the healer is bad...right?
    Is that shots fired? xD Or is that just a general statement? Cause I got my popcorn ready

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  7. #37
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    Is that shots fired? xD Or is that just a general statement? Cause I got my popcorn ready
    Nah, it's a comment about another poster we had over in the DPS boards. Some interesting comments in that thread. . .
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  8. #38
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Zalera
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    Its worse not having them because people still use them and there are a few different ones with widely different outputs. And sometimes this can lead to even worse issues. At least if there was an official, we would have a base one for everything. And when people say numbers someone in game can be like hmmm...mines mpt that high let me look at my rotation
    Its probably not exactly what you want but they did mention something to do with the striking dummies having a DPS measurement of some sort attached to them at some point in the near future. That would be an official way to get those numbers for yourself. I suspect we will see a lot more striking dummies appear.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 06-04-2014 at 10:25 PM.

  9. #39
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    Hilde Everglade
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 60
    the focus of the adjustments will be centering around increasing their overall DPS on single targets. However, as they are already very powerful when it comes to AoE DPS, they would become too powerful if we just boosted their single target DPS. Our goal is to make adjustments so that they're not immediately overlooked for trials and duties such as the Second Binding Coil of Bahamut simply because other jobs are more advantageous; however, instead of simply enhancing black mage, we’ll be making overall adjustments to balance in relation to other jobs.
    SE knows the danger of just plain buffing single target DPS which would result to both top single and AOE damage. The job tops AOE dps hands down and if they simply buffed single target DPS, might as well go all BLM dps in all parties.

    Since the above text is a translation, I think SE will also be adjusting other classes in some way to balance overall DPS output out. Let's just be hopeful that they don't screw things up.
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  10. #40
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    Shae'ah Solaris
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    SE knows the danger of just plain buffing single target DPS which would result to both top single and AOE damage. The job tops AOE dps hands down and if they simply buffed single target DPS, might as well go all BLM dps in all parties.

    Since the above text is a translation, I think SE will also be adjusting other classes in some way to balance overall DPS output out. Let's just be hopeful that they don't screw things up.
    Have faith, these developers understand the game better than anyone, they also (I assume) design this game with a keen love for the genre and mechanics and I'm sure they wouldn't like to see that fall apart.
    Things will be planned, things will make sense.... and why are people even complaining about a class becoming stronger?? We're all allies, we all work together to complete the same goal. More strength + more balance = MOAR VICTORY
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    I commend your effort with language!

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