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  1. #11
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    mikecoby's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mike Coby
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 51
    Years ago when I played FF11, I really enjoyed the way you had to learn your job and abilities in experience parties. Truth be told, waiting on a party invite or making your own could be such a time sink, but once it was all together and the exp starting chaining, it couldn't have been more fun. When Yoshi talked about how 2.0 really opened up once you reach max level, I felt a little disappointed. I looked forward to actually having more endgame content, but I enjoyed the raptor parties and gathering people together back in 1.0 to level up. Fate grind parties got old quick and don't require the attention nor the synergy compared to Square's older leveling system. Players want quicker gratification these days. And while that's what they're getting, it has its prices and contributes to a good portion of rage found in parties now. People aren't completely sure how to play their new 50 job and others get angry. The job quests and instances do help players acquire some understanding of how to use their class, but they are just too few and quick to teach a player all they could have learned using a more involving and cooperative leveling system.
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  2. 06-02-2014 10:15 PM

  3. #12
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    AmyNeudaiz's Avatar
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    Character
    Adahna Serafi
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 80
    I ran across a Pld in full i90 except for AF boots who tried to SR bray and failed horribly. Turns out he had only been playing for 2 weeks. That's your problem.
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  4. #13
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    Logo's Avatar
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    Character
    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Because not everyone plays for the sole reason to be #1 and have an obsession over max number dps rotations.
    This is why I prefer the old format for grouping which consisted on just getting the bodies to do the content and having a blast.
    As for people complaining about bads, take into consideration that they are the ones funding your current habits as well.
    This is the attitude that causes this stupidity.
    It's not about being #1
    It is about understanding the game and being competent at your job.
    If a healer played like this, you would be dead.
    If a tank played like this, you would be dead.
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  5. #14
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    Noni's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Madame Butterfly
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by rhemi1 View Post
    Yeah, those other 3 people in your party? Who cares what THEY think. I mean, they're just NPCs, right?

    Sarcasm aside, there's a hefty difference between "obsession with max number dps rotations" and "trying". When you go into a party and screw around, refuse to take advice and generally drag everyone else down you're essentially sacrificing everyone else's fun for your own. Which is fine, just do everyone a favor and stay out of parties.
    Everyone has the right to be in a party bad or not.....Bad is an opinion in this game anyway. I can have 3 different people tell me 3 totally different things about my abilities in an hour! So play to have fun, otherwise whats the point?
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  6. #15
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    Lyrinn's Avatar
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    Character
    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 3
    Anyone who condones absolutely horrid play is basically this:

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  7. #16
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alhandra Starbreeze
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    i got a smn in bray hm yesterday morning. he refused to use any spells other than miasma 2 and ruin. when asked why he said "because smn isnt equipped for speed runs".......

    ..........

    .......

    lol wut?

    i proceeded to drop into cleric stance (i was on my sch) and heal/max dps the whole run. some people are just terrible
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  8. #17
    Player
    Logo's Avatar
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    Character
    Thera Logo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    Everyone has the right to be in a party bad or not.....Bad is an opinion in this game anyway. I can have 3 different people tell me 3 totally different things about my abilities in an hour! So play to have fun, otherwise whats the point?
    Let me put your comment into interpretive gif.

    can't wait to party with you!
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  9. #18
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    Ghastly's Avatar
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    Character
    Ast Eryut
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Roulette isn't there for you to judge people's numbers. It's there to help others finish a dungeon for story, quest, or hunt purposes.

    If you want serious dungeon groups then you need to start finding them elsewhere like in other FFXIV forums or linkshells.

    As some have said, this game is highly successful because it covers all bases and isn't there to solely for end-game and "technical players."
    An mmorpg doesn't survive solely on number-crunching-gear farming "elites."
    (2)
    Last edited by Ghastly; 06-02-2014 at 11:49 PM.

  10. #19
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Character
    Raquelle Rosalia
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    Everyone has the right to be in a party bad or not.....Bad is an opinion in this game anyway. I can have 3 different people tell me 3 totally different things about my abilities in an hour! So play to have fun, otherwise whats the point?
    Please bring that attitude of "just play to have fun, don't care what other people say" to a single player RPG please. FFXIV: ARR is multiplayer game
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  11. #20
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    Character
    Gormogon Maxwell
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    Everyone has the right to be in a party bad or not.....Bad is an opinion in this game anyway. I can have 3 different people tell me 3 totally different things about my abilities in an hour! So play to have fun, otherwise whats the point?
    Yeah I don't get it.

    I don't have any right to dictate how someone else plays. Players paid their subscription and they put the time and effort to reach level 50 and unlock those dungeons.

    Those that really want to dictate who plays with them start making those super secluded LS, FC, and put up those "max ilvl requirement. Wipe = kick, lag = kick, die to this or that = kick, I don't like you = kick, " PF groups and have your definition of "fun". No one is stopping you there.
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