I don't understand...

[Gormogon]

well actually .. yes.. yes it does. its not about being elite... its about knowing how to play the game.. they need a lot more in depth progression in the job line that will not allow you to go past a certain level without knowing all of the skills and a test of those skills up to a certain level. it would stop a bunch of people from rage quitting.. which is caused by people not knowing their jobs. and ultimately stop a ton of bitching on the forums

Sorry but it will not. Even in top guilds there's drama.

You only replace one form of complaints with another. Humanity as a whole will never be pleased.

[mikecoby]

Years ago when I played FF11, I really enjoyed the way you had to learn your job and abilities in experience parties. Truth be told, waiting on a party invite or making your own could be such a time sink, but once it was all together and the exp starting chaining, it couldn't have been more fun. When Yoshi talked about how 2.0 really opened up once you reach max level, I felt a little disappointed. I looked forward to actually having more endgame content, but I enjoyed the raptor parties and gathering people together back in 1.0 to level up. Fate grind parties got old quick and don't require the attention nor the synergy compared to Square's older leveling system. Players want quicker gratification these days. And while that's what they're getting, it has its prices and contributes to a good portion of rage found in parties now. People aren't completely sure how to play their new 50 job and others get angry. The job quests and instances do help players acquire some understanding of how to use their class, but they are just too few and quick to teach a player all they could have learned using a more involving and cooperative leveling system.

[RakaMaimhov]

Years ago when I played FF11, I really enjoyed the way you had to learn your job and abilities in experience parties.

Experience parties weren't really a good way to learn jobs and abilities. I think they figured that out, which is why they don't used that system anymore. In FFXI, the jobs I was BEST at I spammed to 99 very quickly and learned a crash course of all my relevant abilities (up until then I had been pretty vocally against lvling fast). There was no 70+ levels of muscle memory, bad habits, mis-information and bad advice from LS mates to get in the way of being good at a job.

The problem with FFXIV now is that players rush to 50 for the first time and don't really know how to play. Most of us have been there. It's just that now there's less patience for it from the community because the "noob scrubs" are the minority, not the majority. Most of us who started at launch together, played badly together, and learned together.

As for folks who just simply have bad attitudes? Meh. If they're truly having fun that way, then let them be. Chances are they aren't and are lying about it (even to themselves) or are just to immature to understand that the other people in their party aren't NPC's.

[AmyNeudaiz]

I ran across a Pld in full i90 except for AF boots who tried to SR bray and failed horribly. Turns out he had only been playing for 2 weeks. That's your problem.

[Lyrinn]

Anyone who condones absolutely horrid play is basically this:

[omfgwtf]

I fucking LOVE this!!! its perfect

[omfgwtf]

Anyone who condones absolutely horrid play is basically this:

forgot this in last post lol

[Double]

forgot this in last post lol

It's funny how most posts such as your quote tries to throw people who "isn't playing like everyone else" in the most extreme examples known to man, far passing the point of backing an argument for just plain humiliation.

I've never ran into these players who would literally burn through their mp like an idiot, deliberately attack add-ons, and just do everything within their power to not make a run successful.

I suspect most of the people here are just salty they had to experience first hand how cruel the community can be and only want to spread the madness through newblood.

[alhandra]

i got a smn in bray hm yesterday morning. he refused to use any spells other than miasma 2 and ruin. when asked why he said "because smn isnt equipped for speed runs".......

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lol wut?

i proceeded to drop into cleric stance (i was on my sch) and heal/max dps the whole run. some people are just terrible