I obviously know more about your class than you do, play how I tell you.

[Deuxclydion]

Had an ignoramus of a tank trying to dictate how to play to others in Labyrinth just yesterday (in between liberal volleys of insults, accusing everyone else of being WoW noobs, harassing another tank for having a macro to announce taunt, and demanding to be thanked because he was "clearly carrying the raid" - while losing threat on the bone dragon, being relegated to Platinal duty, and then stacking all of them in a pile next to the central platform). "Advice" from someone like that is clearly to be ignored.

Mercifully, most people are better about it.

[fanservice]

accusing everyone else of being WoW noobs

IMO, most people that come from WoW should adjust to this combat better considering GCDs in WoW were 1.5 seconds at the absolute longest. My number one complaint in beta was how it felt like I could make a sandwich in the time I was ready to vorpal thrust after true thrust. After years of dealing with faster paced combat, it's hard to be a WoW noob in FFXIV.

[ispano]

I believe I already answered a similar post.

No, you've made it clear that you only take advice if asked for, which is selfish. Unasked for advice is criticism, no matter the person's tone or wording. By choosing to ignore ANY unasked for advice, you are harming your group, period.

Note that this is different than using said advice. If someone tells me i'm doing something wrong, even if the information is incorrect, I will think about it for a moment, not ignore it out of hand. Regardless of their tone or wording.

It's basically like this. You: If I don't know something, i'll ask. But what if you don't know that you don't know?

[Eidolon]

Why you'd ask? You really have the time to type all of this? In these days where Speed Runs kills everything?

In Duty Roulette, I can type between GCD's and get a proper set of explanations out. You get almost 3 seconds between GCD's and the game doesn't delete your text.

However, in speed runs, I'll often save this for when we're finished with the run, and I can review with them in tell (Because already during the run it's hard to mention and people feel like they're being called out 'for being bad', when in reality I just want to make them -better-)

[rahvinus]

then it also depends on the approach "Hey Kiara if you use that instead of that you'd keep up greased lightning easier" or "Your rotation is wrong!"
Unfortunately most ppl who do comment go with the 2nd one

This is it exactly. There's a big difference between giving valid advice and just being a douchebag. Unfortunately, 90% of the players out there start in douchebag territory and go down from there.

[Killance]

I expected more people on either side of the argument, but holy hell its pretty even with this thread. I'm surprised.

[SarcasmMisser]

If you've stopped with the thought that you know everything, you have ensured that the way you play is the way you will always play and you will never get better.

The best players never stop learning, and never stop looking to other players. This applies to literally everything game or not. Grow thicker skin. If your reaction to criticism is to whine on forums I have doubts that your attitude is conductive to learning.

[Killance]

If you've stopped with the thought that you know everything, you have ensured that the way you play is the way you will always play and you will never get better.

The best players never stop learning, and never stop looking to other players. This applies to literally everything game or not. Grow thicker skin. If your reaction to criticism is to whine on forums I have doubts that your attitude is conductive to learning.

Please quote me on "I know everything about my class". I'll wait, though I think i'll be waiting forever SINCE I NEVER SAID THAT!

[TeganLaron]

Sometimes people will know more about your class than you, as long as they give their advice in a polite and non-condescending manner I see no problem with that to be honest. As for "telling you how to play" if the way you are playing is flat out wrong, then they are entitled to say so.

[SarcasmMisser]

Please quote me on "I know everything about my class". I'll wait, though I think i'll be waiting forever SINCE I NEVER SAID THAT!

Captain caps lock just confirmed my suspicion about his attitude irt criticism. Grow thicker skin, life is learning.