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Thread: BLM Buffs Inc!

  1. #241
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    I would like to hear how you can get 350dps on t6 (seriously, not taunting and saying you can't do it). I try to always have gcd on cd, even if that means i have to cast Scathe. I flare whenever i can hit 2 targets, i use AM to get back to the group, and I do as little movement as possible. And my dps is still llike 240. Is my single target rotation just completely wrong?
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    These are the factors which contributed to the person having 350 DPS on T6

    - Only a 5 minute and 40 seconds battle
    - Bards played requiem for about 30-40% of the time
    - Contineous nuking of the boss (bards more tended to move when connected)
    - Only one bee spawned
    - Did not get the honey and as a result didn't get sucked in
    - Perhaps didn't have to move inside a branch to avoid getting sucked in.
    - Ignoring slimes and continue nuking the boss
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    Basically, you're only going to have good DPS when the RNG is mild on you and your team has enough DPS to skip phases.
    PS: AM is macrod and it's very easy for me to use it on controller. Also, I don't think you should use flare on two targets when your convert is not up. You're better off just continuing with the normal rotation.
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    Last edited by ViviAnimus; 05-25-2014 at 11:16 PM.

  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViviAnimus View Post
    Also, I don't think you should use flare on two targets when your convert is not up. You're better off just continuing with the normal rotation.
    From my recent testing against 2 training dummies, it's a consistently higher number to do a ST rotation into Flare > Transpose > B1 > T1 > F3 than to ignore the second enemy, around 5% more total DPS. That might not even be an optimal post-Transpose rotation but it has the benefit of starting you at 100% MP.
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  4. #244
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    Halloween we're on the same server, contact me I'll take you into titan or something and I'll help you out with movement casting. Getting the vines doesn't tank dps that hard, the only requiem I get is when you normally would get a requiem (beginning of the fight and after slimes die) You can cast inside the briars but not AM out of them and the loS method isnt a requirement. Vivi your attitude is simply arrogance because you refuse to even acknowledge anything other than your own opinion. Our fights are quick though you are correct in that assumption. We don't ignore the slimes either, sorry. We don't need to make the job easier to play (that is what you are asking for) we just need some single target help.
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  5. #245
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    thanks for trying, xisin. i'm usually at work during the day.
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  6. 05-26-2014 06:21 PM
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    A good rule with people in general:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    There's currently 0 reason to take a Black Mage to Coil 6-9 instead of Summoner.
    I disagree.

    Turn 6 - You can flare bulbs on tank -> DPS gain.
    Turn 8 - You can flare Dreadnaught + boss (Twice if you have convert up) -> DPS gain. Infinite mana!
    Turn 9* - You can flare Ghosts + Nael for 1 add burst. Aetherial Manipulation. Manawall/Manaward defensive buff. Multidots spread targets**

    *For this turn, only exceptionnal Black Mages can pull their weight. It's not given to anyone.
    ** Many BLMs don't see the point to multi-thunder more than one add. 3 Thunder debuffs = 3 times 5% chances to get a proc, why wouldn't you do that? Of course it's less damage than Summoner but it's still a DPS gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    I disagree.

    Turn 6 - You can flare bulbs on tank -> DPS gain.
    Turn 8 - You can flare Dreadnaught + boss (Twice if you have convert up) -> DPS gain. Infinite mana!
    Turn 9* - You can flare Ghosts + Nael for 1 add burst. Aetherial Manipulation. Manawall/Manaward defensive buff. Multidots spread targets**

    *For this turn, only exceptionnal Black Mages can pull their weight. It's not given to anyone.
    ** Many BLMs don't see the point to multi-thunder more than one add. 3 Thunder debuffs = 3 times 5% chances to get a proc, why wouldn't you do that? Of course it's less damage than Summoner but it's still a DPS gain.
    I avoided spoiling myself from the t9 boss up to this point. Thank you very much :/
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  10. #249
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    TBH i think BLM single target turreting damage is pretty high, even higher then a similar geared SMN and Monk when the fight is longer then 5 min due to MP/TP management. All blm really need is a buff to movement dps, scathe proccing a crit guaranteed scathe or something, and for a quality of life remove double proccing.

    I think Vivi's assumption are correct, as a BLM without RNG on your side and massive group dps to push phases so quickly that there is only 2-3 thorns, it is absurdly difficult to pull 360 dps. I would love to see your fight video to prove that you were handling multiple movement heavy mechanix while maintain 360.
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    I have a turn 9 video posted already to show how how i move around and maintain dps. I didn't bother to record anythign for turn 6 as its turn 6 and everyone's cleared it by now.... Also blm has the lowest or second lowest single target in the game, didn't think anyone would argue that.
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