BLM Buffs Inc!

[ViviAnimus]

@ Ragecake, you have another very simplistic view. I outDPS my BLM on every single class I play. A lot of people say that the BLM needs a buff. You can see it when LF parties. Even Mister Happy his Legacy guild claimed that BLM is falling behind. I don't know if you're serious, dude. What do you want me to say? Oh yes, I outDPS my iLVL 99 BLM with my ILVL 90 DRG and MNK. I get 370 DPS with my SMN on T8 while doing 340 on my BLM. These are things that I have noticed. I would claim that I haven't been crying at all. It is because of people like you that we can't have nice things. That egocentric attitude bothers me so much. And about honesty being bad manners? Which proof you accumalated that would show that I am such a bad Black Mage? Through what deductive process do you come to such a simplistic conclusion? You say I might make BLM get buffed for all the wrong reasons. Tell me, what is the the right reason than besides falling behind every single DPS beside Bard (if he plays a song and IF the fight is not highly mobile). What is the right reason besides being only useful in dungeons? Please, do enlighten me? It seems that you are the problem, not me

[Ragecake]

What would make you think I am a bad BLM?

The way you present yourself on the forums and the points you're trying to bring. Not to mention again, controller and casual.

I play with very good people all the time.

The definition of 'good' you present makes me cringe so hard, it hurts.

How much proof would you need to accept that I am definitely not a bad BLM?

It's too late. You've entered the point of no return in my book.

Please continue to plague the forums and the BLM community.

This conversation is over. I regret my debut on the official forums.

[ViviAnimus]

So basically, you said nothing. Using a controller says nothing about my skill but about a factor that might decrease my DPS. That is a logical mistake you make.
How do I present myself. Can you please refute the following claims:

- BLM's single target DPS is inferior to SMN, DRG and MNK. Also to BRD when there is a DRG.
- BLM's (good ones) score about 360 DPS with ilvl 98 gear on a target dummy while not moving
- Therefore: in highly mobile fights the DPS drops hugely while the other classes can DPS while moving + the other classes parse higher than a good BLM. A good DRG, SMN, MNK and even Bard will always outdps a BLM.
- ____________________
Also, BLM has very good aoe, indeed. If you read what I said, it's just a shame that in later content we never get to use it.

[ViviAnimus]

Can you please explain to me how using a controller (and keyboard / mouse) is causing a decrease in DPS? Do you honestly think that using a keyboard would somehow make me cast faster? On the contrary, using a controller is very fast pace.
And yes, it seems that arguing with you is - how cliche it might sound - like arguing with a pidgeon. You shit all over the place and fly away like it's a victory.
Instead of giving tips, being kind and so on, you use ad hominem after ad hominem. To make it even more funny, you talk to me about the way I present myself, I can only weep when reading your posts.
Lastely 'my definition of good, you haven't even heard, you have no evidence with who I play but make a deductive logical mistake (again). Indeed, please don't return

[Ragecake]

A good rule with people in general:

This conversation is over.

[wicked-one]

A good rule with people in general:

I stick with you,...

[ViviAnimus]

So basically, I present you a decent case and all you did was talk nonsense and use ad hominems. To finish me off you post a nice picture which only displays your horrendous form of hypocricy. Now, is there some casual player that wish to discuss with me? Preferably with a controller, because logic.

[HitoYuudai]

so ragecake brings no arguments for his totally absurd imputations, but responses with "you're just bad" stuff over and over instead.
that's what I call a weak personality..

[Kenji1134]

Lets be frank here. With a name like "Ragecake", who made his "debut" in this thread and proceeded to do nothing more than shame, slander, and throw poop at any arguments FOR buffing BLM... did you expect any less?

[Xisin]

In all honesty Rag has a point of, if you present a dps number on this forum (as I have many times) you get called a liar, you try to post something on reddit thats against popular opinion but get betters results you get downvoted to oblivion. Anyway to go over a few things from my point of view and before I start this I'll at least gives a little detail on me.

- I have both smn and blm at 50 and play them both. Both have high allagan weapons. both however have fairly lower ilvls than the dps I normally play with. I'm i104 on both.

- I am a better black mage than I am a summoner both however produce good numbers

- I am in the Legacy fc on Sargatanas and have been double clearing turn 9 for about 3 weeks now (one with an alt, one with a main.)

- My static has a far above excellent drg and brd in it. So I can actually compare myself to these two jobs.

Vivi, has it ever occurred to you that you could simply be better at smn than blm? Serious question. I will agree that smn produces better single target dps than blm, smn also is very good at fights that have multiple spread out targets in them. SMN however doesn't blow blm out of the water. I will also agree that endgame currently lacks any aoe dps fights. I will never agree however that blm isn't capable of 350+ on t6, when they are very capable (even before having a HA weapon) The thing that angers me most about this forum is its attitude however, the mentality that if "I can't hit X amount of DPS then obviously no one else can" that very attitude holds you back. Much like in the real world people have different talents, and in video games (any genre) there are some players that are just better (not as people, just skilled) It's why league of legends has bronze, silver, gold, platinum, diamond and challenger ranks - so that people have more fun while playing. I want to also stress that I do not look down on people for being lower rated on whatever game - I dislike a self-defeating attitude, and will often talk to people that will bother listening.

If I had it my way blm would simply receive a small potency increase on fire, and that's it. I currently like the niche of turret dps and I also like the skill of casting and moving is what often sets blms apart, we don't need stacking firestarters, or thunderclouds (although losing a firestarter stack is annoying.) we don't need surecast to allow us to move and cast. perhaps, revert scathe back to it's 2.0 value as it's useful at times. I don't want the to class to be overbuffed so that SE then overnerfs it later on.

The mouse + keyboard thing vs controller thing though. I feel that more options brings more power and having a gaming keyboard + naga mouse gives a ton more options than a controller, sorry.

I'm all for the buff... just not an overbuff - if you want good numbers practice more, they are possible. A small potency buff on fire + scathe is about all we need. The worst thing about blm imo, is how it depends on a bard and scholar to get its best numbers.