Tanks, what do you wish healers knew about you?

[peaches]

As a Scholar I have something I'd like tanks to know:

Please either pull when you see the Galvanize buff up (ESPECIALLY if it's a crit), or wait until it falls off so I can re-apply it. I swear, every tank in the game conspires against me to wait until Galvanize has 2 seconds left before pulling.

Also, don't pull if you see me casting it. If you don't pay attention to such things, start doing so. As a Scholar, I ALWAYS Adlo the tank before a pull, and most of the time I end up getting hate because it lands the instant the tank pulls with tomahawk or shield lob.

Normally I'll start it then cancel it as the tank looks like he's running in but sometimes he hesitates, so I think he's waiting for Adlo, but then he charges in anyways. Ugh!

[givemeraptors]

As a Scholar I have something I'd like tanks to know:

Please either pull when you see the Galvanize buff up (ESPECIALLY if it's a crit)

omggg so many Adlo crits wasted because tanks just stand there for....???????? I think some tanks don't realize what Galvanize does >_>'

[BinaryJack]

As a Scholar I have something I'd like tanks to know:

Please either pull when you see the Galvanize buff up (ESPECIALLY if it's a crit), or wait until it falls off so I can re-apply it. I swear, every tank in the game conspires against me to wait until Galvanize has 2 seconds left before pulling.

Also, don't pull if you see me casting it. If you don't pay attention to such things, start doing so. As a Scholar, I ALWAYS Adlo the tank before a pull, and most of the time I end up getting hate because it lands the instant the tank pulls with tomahawk or shield lob.

Normally I'll start it then cancel it as the tank looks like he's running in but sometimes he hesitates, so I think he's waiting for Adlo, but then he charges in anyways. Ugh!

Personally I prefer to throw Adlo only after the tank got his enmity rotation up and running.

[Wadoka]

Personally I prefer to throw Adlo only after the tank got his enmity rotation up and running.

I love all healers and DPS who are willing to sit back at the start of a battle, and let me get my Enmity rotations up and running.

Give me 15 seconds at the opening of the fight, (light parties, anyway) where the rest of the party does exactly *nothing*, other than run to a good tactical position, and I know barring extreme bad luck or extreme poor play, we'll win.

[Kitru]

Give me 15 seconds at the opening of the fight

If you need 15 seconds to establish a viable enmity cushion, you're a terrible tank. At *worst*, you should need 7.5 seconds to get your first RoH/BB combo off, and, even then, no one is likely to pull off of you if you've started with a Lob/Tomahawk before going into your starting combo.

[Wadoka]

If you need 15 seconds to establish a viable enmity cushion, you're a terrible tank. At *worst*, you should need 7.5 seconds to get your first RoH/BB combo off, and, even then, no one is likely to pull off of you if you've started with a Lob/Tomahawk before going into your starting combo.

I'm a conservative Tank and I like a big cushion. Especially since I am still outgeared by most everyone else in the groups in which I'm being placed.

I prefer everyone to simply sit still until I've lobbed, flashed, keyed for FoF and CoS, and run through two RoH combos. All that requires 15 seconds minimum *if* I don't miss my timing by a few tenths of a second here and there - and if we're not also counting the time it took me to run in while lobbing and flashing.

People who can't wait 15 seconds at the start of a fight, when it's in their favor to do so, are making the tactical situation harder than it has to be.

[Kitru]

People who can't wait 15 seconds at the start of a fight, when it's in their favor to do so, are making the tactical situation harder than it has to be.

And you're basically asking everyone to stop playing for 15 seconds every 3-4 minutes because you're bad at your job.

I don't care how conservative you are. If you need 15 seconds of alone time at the start of a fight to feel confident about keeping aggro, you need to find a new role to play.

[Pooky_Pasha]

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I'm not sure how far you've gotten content wise, but when snap aggro becomes mandatory (you have at most 1 second to secure the drop before it goes for the healers or dps), this type of attitude will consistently wipe the party. Learning to Shield Lob > Fast Blade (or Shield Lob > Flash for AoE) on pulls to secure hate is pretty much mandatory.

The further you get content wise, the more aggressive dps get, the more aggressive you need to get.

[SummerRider]

I'll give you maybe 6-7 seconds to establish hate on a single target.

I say that as a BLM (DPS) player. I will wait usually for the name on the mob turns red and then a breath (a second) and then I'm casting Thunder III followed by Fire III and then into my Fire I spam. That might not be the best single target opener, but it seems to work for me.

Thunder III has 3.5 second cast, and Fire III also has 3.5 second cast. So before the big hit, you have 7 seconds, probably 8 since I pause just slightly on a pull. After that start I'm watching the hate meter to see how fast I gain. My goal is to always be higher then the healer but below the tank.

[Pantz]

I love all healers and DPS who are willing to sit back at the start of a battle, and let me get my Enmity rotations up and running.

Give me 15 seconds at the opening of the fight, (light parties, anyway) where the rest of the party does exactly *nothing*, other than run to a good tactical position, and I know barring extreme bad luck or extreme poor play, we'll win.

I laughed so hard reading this. You're a good joker!