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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    there are lot mmorpgs with infinite arrows
    WoW (to be fair used to , but always VENDOR arrows , no crafted)
    Lotro (oils but are vendor and cheap)
    I'm not sure how accurate the two above points are. But I want to remember that even from WoW beta and forward, you had to purchase arrows & bullets. Yes you can purchase vendor ammo, but the best ammo in the game is still player crafted. As for LoTRO, there are low level oils, but again the best oils & chants are still player crafted. So you are restricted by how many shots you get for WoW, not so much for LoTRO.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubina View Post
    I'm not sure how accurate the two above points are. But I want to remember that even from WoW beta and forward, you had to purchase arrows & bullets. Yes you can purchase vendor ammo, but the best ammo in the game is still player crafted. As for LoTRO, there are low level oils, but again the best oils & chants are still player crafted. So you are restricted by how many shots you get for WoW, not so much for LoTRO.
    They changed it to auto, and I disagreed with it then as well, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
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    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  3. #33
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    Mikah Frost
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    My only qualm about this is the lack of balance, and I don't even play archer. It's been argued that it helps the economy/adds realism/ect. But why is archer the only class that needs to do those things? Marauders can attack up and down all day and night without ever worrying about running out of anything. And if the realism thing is really so important, then DoM shouldn't exist. Just as people run out of arrows in real life, people do not ever have magic.

    I do understand the other side's points, which is why I believe an unlimited default arrow should be implemented. Then archers would have the option to buy/make much more efficient, yet limited, arrows. It really is the best compromise considering the situation.
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  4. #34
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    My only qualm about this is the lack of balance, and I don't even play archer. It's been argued that it helps the economy/adds realism/ect. But why is archer the only class that needs to do those things? Marauders can attack up and down all day and night without ever worrying about running out of anything.
    For a quite stupid thing : once shooted an arrow it's pretty difficult taking it back, a 2 handed axe usually can't be throwed...'-'
    i see your point btw, that's why in 1.19 arrows would be easier to craft
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    For a quite stupid thing : once shooted an arrow it's pretty difficult taking it back, a 2 handed axe usually can't be throwed...'-'
    haha true, can't you pick up and reuse arrows in Zelda, or something like that?
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symon17 View Post
    haha true, can't you pick up and reuse arrows in Zelda, or something like that?
    you can do that in many games. you can do it in XIV - its called Scavenge. Free arrows on a cooldown as long as you have 1 arrow in your inventory.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    you can do that in many games. you can do it in XIV - its called Scavenge. Free arrows on a cooldown as long as you have 1 arrow in your inventory.
    I just watched a video basically showing it off. It's definitely better than throwing rocks.
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  8. #38
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    Davorok Byrmwilf
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    I am against Infinite Arrows (I play Archer in every MMO if that adds any weight), however I will still enjoy Archer if it gets infinite, I just prefer consumable arrows of different varieties (Ice, Fire, etc.).

    I would like to see an improved Scavenge though where you can retrieve spent arrows from the dead bodies of your foes. Perhaps make it so that "magic arrows" (ice, fire, etc) become normal arrows once "retrieved" but can be Recharged thru crafting or Materia.

    As a compromise, perhaps "Normal Arrows" (non-magically enhanced) are almost infinite with Retrieve, but "Magic Arrows" always need to be crafted/imbued?
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    Speeral Olbodra
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    Nah infinite ammo is not a good idea and anyway to keep the crafts balanced and in need is positively a good idea. Im with tye depleting ur ammo and inv management side.

    I played ranger and it was important to ke to have a good supply of ammo to play my role in game.

  10. #40
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    Sav Alithos
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    As long as the quiver is an entirely separate bag, I think I would be happy. Sure, I'm not an ARC, but I'm still entitled to my opinion.
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