Archer infinite arrows and its role

[SHJcules]

Sure it's "possible" that arrows will become infinite, but not at all likely.

I wouldn't worry too much that your time in the lumberyard will have all been for naught.

[wiremeshi]

Thank you for your response guys it may be that I'm over reacting to a statement I'll will try and look in on this thread time to time but I'm not a regular poster. but I'll will try and get back to ya when I have time.

[Renshi]

Thank you for your response guys it may be that I'm over reacting to a statement I'll will try and look in on this thread time to time but I'm not a regular poster. but I'll will try and get back to ya when I have time.

That's fine, everybody has better things to do than, or must do things instead of looking the forums =)

*holds on his guitar*

[Warlyx]

there are lot mmorpgs with infinite arrows

WoW (to be fair used to , but always VENDOR arrows , no crafted)

Lotro (oils but are vendor and cheap)

Rift (none)

AoC (quiver is a equipable slot that boost dmg is like an offhand)

Warhammer



why ? because is "unfair" , if archers are forced to use arrows , forced all other dps to waste consumables to do dps too....

what about Lancers that need to use a sharp stone eveytime in order to use a WS?

if u run out of arrows u are disarmed , u are wortheless , and u need to go back and buy them , and have a stock .........

2011 guys , forcing a class to restock /pay for ammo.....is lame


Inventory space

carpenters? well u can give them something .....

p.d and i played ranger in FFXI /eq2 where is crafted arrows or nothing. (and leveled woodworking on both) , i usually play archer classes ,and find infinite arrows is fine, isnt gamebreaking for me ....

[Physic]

there are lot mmorpgs with infinite arrows

WoW (to be fair used to , but always VENDOR arrows , no crafted)

Lotro (oils but are vendor and cheap)

Rift (none)

AoC (quiver is a equipable slot that boost dmg is like an offhand)

Warhammer



why ? because is "unfair" , if archers are forced to use arrows , forced all other dps to waste consumables to do dps too....

what about Lancers that need to use a sharp stone eveytime in order to use a WS?

if u run out of arrows u are disarmed , u are wortheless , and u need to go back and buy them , and have a stock .........

2011 guys , forcing a class to restock /pay for ammo.....is lame


Inventory space

carpenters? well u can give them something .....

p.d and i played ranger in FFXI /eq2 where is crafted arrows or nothing. (and leveled woodworking on both) , i usually play archer classes ,and find infinite arrows is fine, isnt gamebreaking for me ....

whats "fair" about being able to attack from a range? The reason archer pays for arrows is so they can do damage and support at relative safety. an archer can hit a monster like 4 times before it can hit them once.

If any melee class wants to attack from range they also have to pay, and they do less damage, and the items cost more, have a shorter range, and less damage potential with skills. so why should archer have infinite arrows again?

and now come to think of it, ranger melee makes the balance full circle, archer can now attack infinitely at close range, although they wont have the damage, or options that melee have.

[Richard]

there are lot mmorpgs with infinite arrows

WoW (to be fair used to , but always VENDOR arrows , no crafted)

Lotro (oils but are vendor and cheap)

Rift (none)

AoC (quiver is a equipable slot that boost dmg is like an offhand)

Warhammer



why ? because is "unfair" , if archers are forced to use arrows , forced all other dps to waste consumables to do dps too....

what about Lancers that need to use a sharp stone eveytime in order to use a WS?

if u run out of arrows u are disarmed , u are wortheless , and u need to go back and buy them , and have a stock .........

2011 guys , forcing a class to restock /pay for ammo.....is lame


Inventory space

carpenters? well u can give them something .....

p.d and i played ranger in FFXI /eq2 where is crafted arrows or nothing. (and leveled woodworking on both) , i usually play archer classes ,and find infinite arrows is fine, isnt gamebreaking for me ....

what does 2011 have to do with anything? If you want to use the 'contemporary' or 'modern' argument why don't you go into 90% of all videogames that use ranged weapons (FPS, RPG ect) and see how many give you infinite ammo. Or better yet lets go into real life military situations. LOL I CAN SHOOT MY M14 FOREVER CUZ I HAS AN INFINICLIP. Nope.

Since the dawn of time man has had to craft his own ammunition. It will be that way for hundreds of years to come.

You say that it's "unfair" to "force" DPS to use consumables to do DPS? You probably need to go back to your console RPG games because MMOs are not right for you. If you run out of arrows (which you never should if you were are decent ARC) then use Scavenge; that's what it's there for. Inventory Space? Welcome to x2 retainers and bazaar + a default 100 slots AND arrows stack to x999. WTF could you possibly be doing in-game that results in not having enough space. I know linkshell members who have all DoH to 50, carry around 6 billion crafting mats yet still have inv. space for arrows.

[rubina]

there are lot mmorpgs with infinite arrows
WoW (to be fair used to , but always VENDOR arrows , no crafted)
Lotro (oils but are vendor and cheap)

I'm not sure how accurate the two above points are. But I want to remember that even from WoW beta and forward, you had to purchase arrows & bullets. Yes you can purchase vendor ammo, but the best ammo in the game is still player crafted. As for LoTRO, there are low level oils, but again the best oils & chants are still player crafted. So you are restricted by how many shots you get for WoW, not so much for LoTRO.

[Chezen]

I'm not sure how accurate the two above points are. But I want to remember that even from WoW beta and forward, you had to purchase arrows & bullets. Yes you can purchase vendor ammo, but the best ammo in the game is still player crafted. As for LoTRO, there are low level oils, but again the best oils & chants are still player crafted. So you are restricted by how many shots you get for WoW, not so much for LoTRO.

They changed it to auto, and I disagreed with it then as well, personally.

[Scherwiz]

Thank you for your response guys it may be that I'm over reacting to a statement I'll will try and look in on this thread time to time but I'm not a regular poster. but I'll will try and get back to ya when I have time.

Not at all, you brought up a great point, and an important one to me and many others. Thank you

[Warlyx]

what about mages? cast from afar too and dont waste consumables in order to.......

lets force mage to waste consumables for every spell , Black magic scroll x999 , White magic scroll x999 .....

and archers being somewhat OP isnt a good reason to force a class to pay...... because inst rangers fault , is SE fault

and no archer is going to "unload" 4 arrows before the Tank gets some agro ......

if u are talking about solo...........who cares?


@richard "Or better yet lets go into real life military situations." ..... RL card i see......

"Since the dawn of time man has had to craft his own ammunition. It will be that way for hundreds of years to come."

NOT applicable to a videogame if the developers WANT TO , is a fantasy world.......if u can get raised , u can cast fire , ice electric spells...... why u cant have a infinite "magic" quiver?

there are lots of RPGs with archers and nearly all of them have infinite arrows !

FPS <> MMORPG having infinte bullets in a FPS kills the inmersion (if its RL based, because there are FPS with "future weapons" that have infinite charges)

are u all carpenters?