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    Luxx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
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    I guess because the CS thing, if you're new, people kick you for watching the CS. Is that respectful?
    People SHOULD respect the fact that the new people are wanting to watch the CS's and not be rushed to death.
    I personally feel like at the end of the day, people just do not patience in this game and wants to get stuff done as fast
    as humanly possible.

    I watched a video in Lost city and I still got confused, I now know what to do from actual experience.
    Same like making like idk...meatloaf, watched a video, still confused, but after making it a few times I got the
    idea of it better.

    Watching things =/= Learning yourself first hand.
    I was in no way trying to be rude in my previous post btw.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    Watching things =/= Learning yourself first hand.
    Honestly, we don't expect you to get things immediately just because you watched a video. But on the hard content, it gives you a frame of reference. An idea. A baseline. We can answer it from there, we can clarify, we can expand on 'why is stacking so important during fireballs' or 'oh, yeah, ranged stand here because they can target both the adjacent sections while tornados are active'.

    Trying to teach you from scratch with words is even harder if there's no mental "oh, that's what that weird thing with the rocks was in the video" to link it to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    I guess because the CS thing, if you're new, people kick you for watching the CS. Is that respectful?
    People SHOULD respect the fact that the new people are wanting to watch the CS's and not be rushed to death.
    I personally feel like at the end of the day, people just do not patience in this game and wants to get stuff done as fast
    as humanly possible.

    I watched a video in Lost city and I still got confused, I now know what to do from actual experience.

    Watching things =/= Learning yourself first hand.
    It's not respectful. This is why I'm saying a little respect goes a long way - on both ends. Those watching the CS's can try to fill out a party before going into DF, but I'm not going to expect them to build a full party. And even if they go in alone, 100% of the people should respect them and let them watch the cutscenes. But again, I perhaps have high expectations expecting -both ends- to put in -any- effort.

    And you're right - people DO want to get things done fast. That's the kind of environment SquarEnix and the players have created. This flawed system of Myth currently is the best example - by making it so that the final boss doesn't drop myth, they made it so people could -easily- speed run. And no matter what they do, people -will- find a way to speed run.

    I think the opo opo minion's a step in the right direction, though. Putting rewards behind the final boss is great.

    As for watching the video, this is to serve the purpose of a supplement. It lets you know what will come, and it lets you know in advance what will be happening. It is to increase your awareness. I agree 100% that you will only learn by experiencing - as I am much the same. Until I have suffered something, I do not understand, but once I have - my reaction is better. Even still, my reaction in fights can only be improved by reading and watching something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    But again, I perhaps have high expectations expecting -both ends- to put in -any- effort.

    And you're right - people DO want to get things done fast. That's the kind of environment SquarEnix and the players have created. This flawed system of Myth currently is the best example - by making it so that the final boss doesn't drop myth, they made it so people could -easily- speed run. And no matter what they do, people -will- find a way to speed run.

    I think the opo opo minion's a step in the right direction, though. Putting rewards behind the final boss is great.

    Even still, my reaction in fights can only be improved by reading and watching something.
    Lots of good stuf in here mister ^^

    Yup, having high expectations is a bane and boon. SE created the Environment so those who can get around and saving minutes will do it. Flawed system -I completely agree.

    opo-opo as well - if only all drops were like this, no more complaints. except having to run 1000 times the same dungeon, then SR will kick in again

    The only point here I digress is 'can only be improved by' - if weight of the land is there, it's your own reaction (minus the lag/latency, mind you) and not the video or strat that will have dodge it for you.

    You know it will come, for you have seen it in the vid, but what if bec of echo DPS will jump the phase, and it will appear in 2:13 sec instead of 2:19.. are you telling me you'll be done for? I am sure not.

    Expect the unexpected, continue to be nice and give tips, and you shall get your win, DF or PF or whatever ^^
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 05-22-2014 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Silly 1000 characters lol