Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
Look at it this way - you come home from work and you only have about 3 hours to play before you're off to bed. Your goal is clear turn 4 that night, maybe do a couple atma fates, gather a map etc. Instead you join this turn 4 where a bunch of people go "lol first time no idea what I'm doing". So now you spent your little free time that you have trying to teach newbies on what to do when you had other plans for your gaming time that evening.
A counter-point. You come home from work, have 3 hours to play (ok, aside, yeesh. I work 8 hours a day, make dinner, do laundry whatever and still have at least 6 hours. Then again, I also only sleep 5-6 hours...maybe I need help) and you just want to relax. Instead of making your goal to clear T4 that night, your goal is to clear T4 at some point in the future.You don't want to look up videos because they don't really help you, and you'd rather just learn through gameplay.

Honestly, I'd use PF for that. I wouldn't touch DF at all. But my point is, different people have different goals. I could have said your goal was to farm T4 for a specific piece. You would probably not rely on DF for that. I guess the argument is really about DF in general. Using PF or a static, you can pretty much avoid this issue altogether.