with this mindset the future looks dim

[Garlyle]

I agree, except that when I joined most of them, they were already established. Kupo was one of, if not the top LS on Pandemonium by the time I was able to join. Caffeine was as well, and Snow was already off the ground. I came in and they showed me the ropes. I didnt' join and have them expect me to have read and memorized every fight.

Again, there's a difference between "I joined these people, we chatted, and when it came time to do this stuff they helped me fully knowing I didn't know yet" and "I joined a party of 7 random people all ready to kick ass and clear, but didn't feel like finding out what I was getting myself into".

The experience of a preformed party, where an agreement and understanding pre-exists, and going into an experience with random players, is a drastically different one.

[Timethiuas]

Again, there's a difference between "I joined these people, we chatted, and when it came time to do this stuff they helped me fully knowing I didn't know yet" and "I joined a party of 7 random people all ready to kick ass and clear, but didn't feel like finding out what I was getting myself into".

The experience of a preformed party, where an agreement and understanding pre-exists, and going into an experience with random players, is a drastically different one.

I am not sure what your point is. I was responding to a comment that you had to research in FFXI. I was showing that it wasn't required.

[Tiggy]

I am not sure what your point is. I was responding to a comment that you had to research in FFXI. I was showing that it wasn't required.

It must have been easy not to research anything. Well with all the quest markers pointing you to the next quest object, the well written quest descriptions made it clear what you were supposed to do, and the map markers letting you know which npc's had story quests.


Oh wait....None of that was in the game meaning you had to research just to know certain quests even existed. Saying you didn't research is a flat out characterization of the entire FFXI experience.

[Timethiuas]

It must have been easy not to research anything. Well with all the quest markers pointing you to the next quest object, the well written quest descriptions made it clear what you were supposed to do, and the map markers letting you know which npc's had story quests.


Oh wait....None of that was in the game meaning you had to research just to know certain quests even existed. Saying you didn't research is a flat out characterization of the entire FFXI experience.

I have no idea what FFXI you played, but no, I did not have to go to the Wiki or any other internet publication to play the game.