with this mindset the future looks dim

[Amberion]

You know, I remember the days when MMOs were all about being social. Y'know, back when you'd get in a random group, people would start chatting casually with each other, and nobody flipped their **** because "U DIDN'T REED THE GIDE U SCRUB! GTFO!" I love explaining fights to players, because I realized very early on something that so many elitists have ignored: You create the community you play with.

You did not do end game fights with random people. You also didn't have random people teaching you those fights.

All that was handled in your guild/linkshell or whatever the game of choice was.

So what is the rush? I understand not wanting to lose but once you are fully maxed geared will you leave the game voiding your hard work for virtual items or bum around till new content?

Let's say it like this. Someone ends up 3 or 4 times a day in an instance where he would have to teach someone. That is 15-20min in one day. Now multiply that with 365. That is a lot of time that could have been saved if those people instead did that themself.

[Odett]

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Right, but if you know the boss' attacks, then you can discuss a strategy. Try discussing a strategy with a player who doesn't know anything about a boss and it will not work because you cannot expect someone to understand when they don't know the fight itself.

We can use T5 as an example. You can discuss how you're gonna do phase 2, but with someone who's going in blind, they would have to juggle the information of how conflags and fireballs work, as well as how to deal with them. Same with divebombs and Manawall with BLMs. Same goes with T4 and feeding mechanics. You can't expect someone to know what you're talking about when they don't know about the monsters that will appear, what feeding is, or even where and when they'll spawn (you can alleviate this with waypoints, but new players won't know what's coming).

You can spend an hour wiping and explaining, or you can spend 5-10 minutes watching a guide, and maybe it will require only 2-3 wipes to win. Is a guide necessary? No. Does it make things smoother for everyone? You bet.

[Nadrojj]

Meh, you'll go in, you'll wipe one, two,three times. You'll get the echo buff and if people stick around long enough to carry dead weight, you'll beat the encounter. It makes me laugh of hearing all these horror stories of DF/PF'ing content that is six months old, especially with the echo, it's pretty much an iwin button. My question is, when you guys are done PF/DF'ing this content, will you wait another six months until they nerf the new content so you can PF/DF it and complain about the same people getting mad that you didn't watch a video before you went into t6 and keep wiping your party because you keep getting eaten?

Or, will you now look for a static group to try and down the recent content when there is no buff and still go in with no prior knowledge of the fight and have this attitude? It's one thing to get carried in old content with a crazy buff that makes each instance pretty much roll face, but it's an entirely different story to go into what's considered "hard" content where you cannot carry dead weight and a mistake or two wipes your group over and over again.

[JTribal]

Also, random question, but how am I able to avoid the character limit in my posts? I see tons of posts on here that are over the limit =/

[Amberion]

Also, random question, but how am I able to avoid the character limit in my posts? I see tons of posts on here that are over the limit =/

Edit it after.

[Natashio]

Edit the post to go over the limit.

[Clavaat]

Also, random question, but how am I able to avoid the character limit in my posts? I see tons of posts on here that are over the limit =/

Write out what you want, hit Submit. When the prompt comes up, take out a chunk of your text with Ctrl+X, post. As soon as you see it posted successfully, hit Edit, Ctrl+V, resubmit.

[Bizniztyme]

It's your responses I'm basing that off of. If that's not the picture you want to paint then I suggest you look at the words you use to talk to people and the meanings they convey. You very clearly come across as only caring for yourself. If this is not correct then please start acting in a way that proves it otherwise. You act just like any other troll who turns to insults and disparagement the moment holes get poked through their story.

Assume away. I don't know you and couldn't care any less what you think of me. I will never stop laughing at peeps taking games so seriously and raging. It's funny and will always be funny.

[Zeille]

I ran turn 4 through the DF for the past 2-3 weeks. Most groups were quick in and out wins.

The only groups that continuously struggled were those with first timers who didn't bother to do any research at all about the fight. Always asking at the beginning, "Anything I should know?". An ESSAY was then produced explaining every single phase and what to do / how to position. They still messed it up, because that's a lot of information to digest at once. Especially noticeable with tanks who came in blind and let the adds rip the healers' faces off. Repeatedly.

I've put in my time learning turn 4 before the echo. It was tough, but doable and there were many wipes before a win. I just don't feel like repeating that again for randoms, when I will never see the fruits of any invested hard work. Nothing against you people that like to go in completely blind and "learn as you wipe" kinda deal. Go for it, but don't be surprised if someone like me up and leaves because they don't want to participate in a wipe-fest.

I still don't get the refusal to watch a quick video, but in the same breath say it's perfectly OK to ask others to barf up a strat all over their keyboard. These fights can get rather complicated and just expecting someone to spoon-feed you info when you could have gone out and grabbed it yourself is odd to me. To each their own I suppose.

[xenosuke1]

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for youe first question it was assumption based on your attitude, and like i stated run with a fc, ls, or static. no matter what you do and no matter where you do it, pugs will always have these problems it sucks i know, and for self entitlement, jus like consideration and selfishness it cuts both ways, im sry you had a bad time, but with how are handling you situation, you are being self entitled you feel that your time is more important than other, and thats how everyone feels, now like you stated those grps were obviously learning grps if you expect em to be win if they dnt how the fight goes, well thats kinda like flippin a coin your either gunna get heads or tails and you jus got the short end of the stick