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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatley View Post
    Part of a Bard's business is to help out the group, which includes the healers when they are low on mp. Otherwise why would Bards have Mage's Ballad if no one needs it? After reading the replies here and some of the posts in the DPS forums, it seems that the only songs people want are Foe Requiem and Swiftsong.
    Because you have other useful buffs for the party rather than cater to a WHM who probably knows how to manage mana while casting holy.

    If a healer starts to dps and spam holy, it means he is confident about having enough mana. You won't need to use song just for the healer. Use the dmg debuffs instead.

    Rarely will any healer need song in 4mans. So don't bother unless he has like 400mp. The only time you should watch out for a healer needing song is in high level content where the healers have to heal their lives worth and dont even have the time to dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantz View Post
    Because you have other useful buffs for the party rather than cater to a WHM who probably knows how to manage mana while casting holy.

    If a healer starts to dps and spam holy, it means he is confident about having enough mana. You won't need to use song just for the healer. Use the dmg debuffs instead.
    I know I have other songs to use. I don't cater to just the healers. Depending on the other dps I will either use Foe or Paeon, usually for the big pulls and the bosses. It's just when I see the healer's mp at less than half in the middle of a fight I think "Oh crap! The healer needs mana!" and will want to switch to Ballad. Then of course with the spamming of Holy I feel the need to keep just Ballad up since the spell uses a lot of mp quickly. But now I know I don't need to do that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatley View Post
    I know I have other songs to use. I don't cater to just the healers. Depending on the other dps I will either use Foe or Paeon, usually for the big pulls and the bosses. It's just when I see the healer's mp at less than half in the middle of a fight I think "Oh crap! The healer needs mana!" and will want to switch to Ballad. Then of course with the spamming of Holy I feel the need to keep just Ballad up since the spell uses a lot of mp quickly. But now I know I don't need to do that anymore.
    I think you should use it only then, when healer mp hits below 5% and mobs are still alive and healthy. When you have situation like this, that means someone is doing something wrong. From there it's up to you, save the party or let wipe happen. We can never trust pug teams I wish you best of good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whatley View Post
    I know I have other songs to use. I don't cater to just the healers. Depending on the other dps I will either use Foe or Paeon, usually for the big pulls and the bosses. It's just when I see the healer's mp at less than half in the middle of a fight I think "Oh crap! The healer needs mana!" and will want to switch to Ballad. Then of course with the spamming of Holy I feel the need to keep just Ballad up since the spell uses a lot of mp quickly. But now I know I don't need to do that anymore.
    Cool, was thinking for a second this thread was either a troll or someone who would come back in and vehemently defend their original position despite everything everyone was saying. Good to see someone open to learning, doesn't happen often enough.

    In general knowing the abilities of the people you party with goes a long way towards knowing when/where to use your own.
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