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  1. #31
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    I see. but if you need lb 2 to Caster LB then might as well do super slug (super easy to kill it w/ Malee LB2) and buy you self 2-3 min extra.
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    One question:
    As Warrior should i go Str/Acc or Str/Determination? Which secondary stat is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossSleet View Post
    As Warrior should i go Str/Acc or Str/Determination? Which secondary stat is better?
    Acc is your #1 stat until you reach the required accuracy for the content you're doing. As soon as you hit that cap, it's basically worthless. As such, the answer to your question is "both". If you don't have enough acc, acc is better. If you have enough acc, det is better.

    Now, if your intent was to ask whether det or crit is better, crit provides more damage over the long term whereas det is reliable. It's largely personal preference as to whether you think the predictability is worth the reduction in performance over time.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Acc is your #1 stat until you reach the required accuracy for the content you're doing. As soon as you hit that cap, it's basically worthless. As such, the answer to your question is "both". If you don't have enough acc, acc is better. If you have enough acc, det is better.

    Now, if your intent was to ask whether det or crit is better, crit provides more damage over the long term whereas det is reliable. It's largely personal preference as to whether you think the predictability is worth the reduction in performance over time.
    When does a war gear ever really have crit...and why would you want it over parry, vit, str, etc.

    The tank gears are more or less static. your top 3 stats asap then parry. Anything else might as well not matter. Only reason tank gear eat the sub standard stats is for acc.

    If a war ever needed to push damage, they gotta risk losing defiance, not with a stat that might as well never exist.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 05-17-2014 at 03:56 PM.

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    I Go half an half on strength and vitality. I'm leaning more on strength now.
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  6. #36
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    Im having big problem going STR...
    Hero acc (90 ilvl from myths) lets say its Accessory of Slaying BUT they're so different: for example if earrings are str and acc then bracelet is str and crit hit... how can i make good set out of it?
    Could you tell me nice combo str + acc? I dont really know what accesories i should aim for.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossSleet View Post
    Im having big problem going STR...
    Hero acc (90 ilvl from myths) lets say its Accessory of Slaying BUT they're so different: for example if earrings are str and acc then bracelet is str and crit hit... how can i make good set out of it?
    Could you tell me nice combo str + acc? I dont really know what accesories i should aim for.
    For what? 1-5? 6-9? Be specific. Otherwise... just play around with a set on ariyala that has the same amount of acc as a VIT set? Not rocket science.
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    Iam Groot
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    Secondary stats are irrelevant, the sooner you understand this the better off you will be.
    STR build = Fending left side, Slaying Right side (highest STR is all that matters) you will be shooting for 500 of both vit and str in this build, don't dip below 500 VIT adjust bonus stats accordingly
    VIT build = Fending all around

    Avoid SS whenever you can done

    Debating secondary stats is pointless, the true strength of a warrior is in his ability to boost his Vit value, thereby letting him gain more of another primary stat while still maintaining the required HP pool.

    If you are MTing Twin, you are going to want as much HP/fending gear as possible. Str build is probably more OT at this point, but who knows?
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    Last edited by MythToken; 05-19-2014 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Debating secondary stats is pointless, the true strength of a warrior is in his ability to boost his Vit value, thereby letting him gain more of another primary stat while still maintaining the required HP pool.
    You do realize that a WAR and a PLD with the same VIT have the *exact same* eHP because 20% DR does the exact same thing to eHP as 25% +hp, don't you? The fact that a WAR will show 8-9k and a PLD will show 7-7.5k means absolutely nothing because they've got the exact same eHP. The "true strength" you're talking about doesn't exist because it's purely for show.

    The *real* true strength of a WAR is in how we're able to leverage higher strength for greater increases to DPS than a PLD is. We'll lose the exact same eHP/survivability and get more damage out of the bargain, which is what you aim for by dropping VIT.
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    Iam Groot
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    I did not intend to imply we would keep the same eHP, I simply meant that after a certain point HP is not as valuable.

    You stated it better than I -"leveraging higher Strength for greater increases..." is a better way to look at it.

    Regardless my point was to the topic of this thread, that secondary stats outside of being ACC capped are not something to worry about or focus on.
    And Str build vs Vit build are two things to look at, ideally you get both sets.
    But know your roll, are you OT or MT?
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    Last edited by MythToken; 05-19-2014 at 11:47 PM.

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