PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[ish007xx]

yeah granted 30-40 is a bigger grind than 1-30 idk y lol but i was kindah happy for the grind cause i was getting gear mostly no1 who pvped would get and be of the few to actually have such nice gear and thought this new grind wouldve brought back the good old days of 2.1pvping but it didnt. I get good matches now and then granted some days i have to wait 10mins+ for 1 to loose cause i got qued in with pve heros -_- but i still dont mind it. Now everyone and their whole family does this wintrade y u ask not to pvp but to just get gear for vanity -_-, 90% of these people who are wintrading dont have one idea how to pvp and will not even be entering frontlines when it hits. The players u'll see are the 2.1 players and up and coming new pvpers who actually enjoy pvp.

[sairaus]

give SE time, they are slowly fixing pvp into something we want just takes time

[Okazaki]

Just because the system allows it, doesn't mean that it's "Working as intended". How can you honestly claim that SE wanted us to take turns beating on each other in order to level up?

The same people are probably the ones that buy gil, use bots, and all around just suck as players in general.

tl;dr Stop being bad, and do things legit.

Sadly that's how things go most of the time, and until people get slapped on the wrists by the moderators nothing will happen. When in the event it does happen you can expect a torrent of unjustified complaints as well.

[Mupod]

I just want a statement at this point. Maybe if this thread keeps growing we'll get one.

The people trying to justify their cheating are really gross though. Jesus.

[necrosis]

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Love when people think up ideas to justify their actions while not breaking the rules but being a prick by breaking the spirit of the game.

[sairaus]

necro to me honest spirit of competition would be everyone w the same gear same amount of premade people fighting working on a ranking ladder. Solo que doesnt offer that atm, only 4v4 premade does.

[MakoRaiju]

necro to me honest spirit of competition would be everyone w the same gear same amount of premade people fighting working on a ranking ladder. Solo que doesnt offer that atm, only 4v4 premade does.

You do know what you are describing here is not win-trading which is the issue of this whole thread not to mention, this is totally what you have already admitted to what you are doing making "premades" to trade wins, no matter if its naked, taking turns killing each other off etc etc etc.

[MakoRaiju]

I can understand that stance azur, but IMO wintrading being an exploit or not, I believe solo ques are doomed as long as 4 man premades can que against each other and get solo que points. until those glaring issues are fixed I would never go back to solo que and I would hope no one else would either 30 min ques<instaques

Ofc you wont go back to solo queue when you can make arrangements with your 2nd party that you queue up with that you have already arranged who is gonna win this and that round. Thats why its called win-trading and the fact that its instant because its already 4v4 makes it even better. Not to mention the queues beeing bad is because everyone is arranging with a 2nd team to arrange wins and losses in the fastest possible way in turns. And because of this, solo queues are taking forever beacuse there simply is not enough players of different ranks in the solo/duo/triple queues. These are points that have already been mentioned and also something you yourself have said that you are taking a part in doing so why are you saying different things after? Are you just spinning more excuses to justify these actions or do you just dont understand the concept of what everyone have been trying to discuss here?

Making teams of 4s to pvp against other teams of 4s is at NOT what ppl are discussing here, that would have been fine and all that where there is actual competition on winning/losing. ARRANGING wins and loses is what ppl is reacting on, queueing two teams up together for instant queue and just farm each other in turns.

[Xandim]

SE should leave PvP rewardless. True PvPers just PvP for the sake of beating their friends to a bloody pulp =P

....... j/k xD

[Akujin]

Thing about this method, is that while it'll certainly ensure that a select group of players will get to the highest tier of PvP gear/weapons, it doesn't prove they know what to do when faced up against another team of players they aren't already used to.

Basically, gear doesnt equal skill type of thing.

"Look at my fearsome armor, bow in respect you worthless casual scum!" (-two minutes later, player is dead, surrounded by their own "neat" geared friends, also dead-) "Game must be broken!"