PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[NyneAlexander]

Btw, for anyone saying you can do this in WoW and the GM's are onboard with it, you are talking out of your ass.... It did take blizzard some time to deal with this exploit, but actions were taken against win trading, though it is a hard situation to monitor.

From WoW forums:



Ontop of this accounts were banned outright iirc.

I'd really stop using nonsense arguments like they don't care about pvp to justify cheating. It may take square some time to get around to the cheaters, but they do get around to them in the end. I'd expect an announcement such as the one above from square at some point in the future.

This is for RANKED PVP. We don't have anything like this, lol.

[AiChyan]

And why hasn't SE said anything yet? I'm starting to think no official comment will be said. People farmed commendations in guildhests, and powerleveled crafting and battles and nothing happened so I wonder if I should just stop worrying and get into the win trade scene <.<

[sairaus]

To be fair to the contrary, blizzard never took a stance on battleground farming, only afk and arenas, which is their ranked version of pvp. That is something this game does not have(hopefully in frontlines) Also it took them from vanilla till mist of pandara to fix the ranked cheating, so uh 4 expansions after FF gets ranked pvp, please look foward to it. and if it was being taken care of or if they had a care about it, then it could've been mentioned during duty commenced at the forum thread section of the show.

[Akirakogami]

i don't understand how it works.

also square and most players don't care about pvp

[zulu_kulu]

i don't understand how it works.

also square and most players don't care about pvp

so because alot of players dont care about something, then can cheat the system to gear up faster? well i do not like crystal due to the constant trolling, so i will abused the join in progress and will consistently cancel my ready queues until i feel i think i got king behemoth. like wise, i think i should bot shards and mineral to lvl 50, after all i find farm botany and minering to be BEYOND boring and most players really dont care about this stuff anyways and hell me flood the market with this stuff can only make selling stuff better! in fact, why even do that, i should go and buy gil from RMT, since i dont care for gathering anyways. while im at it that ceiling hack would do wonders for me with gear that awesome tank gear jacket and other nonsensical hyperbole.

and square do care about pvp, otherwise SMN and WAR wouldnt nerfed for pvp

try again

And why hasn't SE said anything yet? I'm starting to think no official comment will be said. People farmed commendations in guildhests, and powerleveled crafting and battles and nothing happened so I wonder if I should just stop worrying and get into the win trade scene <.<

while there havent been any nerfs to guild hest other than the fact you cant do coms in premades) SE did hella nerfed crafting leves. remember, back in 2.0, you can turn in 3 hq items for triple return, not it just a double return and they boosted the leves to balance that.


SE also banned the afk players in pvp back in 2.1. so win trade if you want to , but think this thoughg: is it worth going back to r 1 before the official word?

[Geobryn]

... then can cheat the system to gear up faster?

they don't gear faster, they have only 50% of wins, meaning, they gear slower then anyone having more then 50% wins :P

[MakoRaiju]

they don't gear faster, they have only 50% of wins, meaning, they gear slower then anyone having more then 50% wins :P

Wow, just wow. Where did you learn math? Theres alot of other variables in the mix here.

[Azurymber]

they don't gear faster, they have only 50% of wins, meaning, they gear slower then anyone having more then 50% wins :P

I have to wait 30min per match
they get in nearly instant

Some of my matches last 10 minutes
Theirs all last 10 seconds or so

So yes... they gear -A LOT- faster.

[Makado]

I have to wait 30min per match
they get in nearly instant

Some of my matches last 10 minutes
Theirs all last 10 seconds or so

So yes... they gear -A LOT- faster.

I'd like to know how long it takes you to reach rank 40 without doing premades. It is not our fault that PvP is so backseat and ignored. If you want PvP gear and don't do win trades you in my opinion are just wasting an epic amount of time. Once they change it so you can rank up faster ( more exp hopefully) and do more types of PvP like front lines people won't do it anymore, or as much. Until then though...with current queues its just not feasible or reasonable to do normally.

[Beetle]

i don't understand how it works.

also square and most players don't care about pvp

Build a group of 8 players and split the groups up in 2.
Make sure both groups are near each other in total rank. They cant be more then 9 ranks apart from each group. (Example:Rank140-149 or 131-40 for both groups)
Then make sure everyone on each required job and select duty finder at sametime and que in. It should take 1-10secs to que up with each other.
Then basically take turns winning from each other. If groups are 10 or more ranks far part it takes longer to que up. It will take 5mins to que up if your 10 away.

What happens is the game trys to match groups up by jobs first then by ranks and then trys to match each team thats qued by there ranks. Because they arent the same rank it takes longer to que up because SE has designed it to be a delay so groups can be matched correctly by there ranks. SE putting in matching ranks has actually created more of a bigger problem.

Now from the issue it isnt that big of a deal. There is far better things SE need to put there attention towards.

(How to fix the issue)
Removing matching ranks would remove pvp trading cus it be more random to enter a match with the other team and would improve actually entering a pvp match.